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Why does Tennessee claim 5 national championships when the SEC only recognizes two?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:15 pm
Is the thinking that if y'all use Bama math for NCs, y'all's program will become Bama?
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:16 pm to magildachunks
I wish we'd use Bama math and claim several more titles.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:16 pm to magildachunks
You are awful at this
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:17 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
We don't need to.
We already have more than the rest of the SEC besides Bama without it.
LSU is second only to Bama in football.
We already have more than the rest of the SEC besides Bama without it.
LSU is second only to Bama in football.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:18 pm to VFL1800FPD
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You are awful at this
Do I lie?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:21 pm to magildachunks
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We don't need to.
We already have more than the rest of the SEC besides Bama without it.
LSU is second only to Bama in football.
InsecureU at it again.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:22 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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I wish we'd use Bama math and claim several more titles.
I doubt you really have more titles using Bama math.
On the other hand, Alabama would have many more titles if they used what people thought was Bama math.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:22 pm to magildachunks
Because they need something to be proud of...who can blame them
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:23 pm to 3down10
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I doubt you really have more titles using Bama math.
08, 35 and 36.
And maybe an1890's title.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:30 pm to magildachunks
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08, 35
The only pre-poll national titles we claim are undefeated teams that won the SoCon/SEC went to the Rose Bowl and played the champion of the Pacific Conference and were named national champs by multiple outlets.
1925 - 8 groups
1926 - 5 groups
1930 - 4 groups
1934 - 4 groups
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36
The AP Poll began in 1936 - Minnesota was #1
LSU 1908 - 1 group
LSU 1935 - 1 group (tied with TCU)
LSU 1936 - 3 Groups (the poll era had begun)
Years Alabama "won" a national title with at least 1 selector
1925
1926
1930
1934
1941
1945
1961
1964
1965
1966
1973
1975
1977
1978
1979
1992
2009
2011
2012
2015
2017
So, using your version of "Bama Math" we have 21 national titles
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:37 pm to magildachunks
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08, 35 and 36.
And maybe an1890's title.
Oddly enough, those are claimed on the LSU season history wiki page.
But what is it about them that says they are NCs?
Even Alabama's 1941 terrible claim that shouldn't be claimed at all, has a selector.
Here's what is valid to claim IMO.
Before 1936 - Rose Bowl and Math formulas are valid.
After 1936 - Only major polls like the AP(although in the early years it was terrible). Sorry 1941 Alabama.
1998-2013 = Only BCS titles. AP is no longer valid, sorry USC.
2014-present = Only playoff titles, sorry UCF.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:40 pm to 3down10
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Before 1936 - Rose Bowl and Math formulas are valid.
After 1936 - Only major polls like the AP(although in the early years it was terrible). Sorry 1941 Alabama.
1998-2013 = Only BCS titles. AP is no longer valid, sorry USC.
2014-present = Only playoff titles, sorry UCF.
Seems like the standard most reasonable people agree on. It's strange that everyone can't just kind of accept that as the best compromise as we could come to and move on.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Years Alabama "won" a national title with at least 1 selector
1925
1926
1930
1934
1941
1945
1961
1964
1965
1966
1973
1975
1977
1978
1979
1992
2009
2011
2012
2015
2017
if Wayne Atchison had never tried to count 1941 so many of these threads would have never existed. Why he decided to count 1941 and not 1945 is amazing to me.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:46 pm to I-59 Tiger
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if Wayne Atchison had never tried to count 1941 so many of these threads would have never existed. Why he decided to count 1941 and not 1945 is amazing to me.
I'm telling you, some plant from Tennessee or Auburn set him up with it and by the time he figured it out it was too late. It's the only logical explanation.
In reality I'm guessing he saw 1945 as a legitimate claim but knew it would be suicide to claim a title at the end of WW2 that was also claimed by West Point. So, he just picked the closest 1 with a "national title" pick by somebody and that was 1941. So stupid.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:54 pm to 3down10
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Oddly enough, those are claimed on the LSU season history wiki page.
But what is it about them that says they are NCs?
LSU only officially recognizes 4 football National Championships.
LSUsports.net
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
by the way, the 1975 Alabama team is very underrated in 'those who were hosed.' The way the team progressed each week after the Missouri game and then how Oklahoma bounced back in the polls after a really bad home loss in NOVEMBER has always been a head scratcher.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:01 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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I wish we'd use Bama math and claim several more titles.
If Bama used "Bama math", we'd have about 30.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:04 pm to I-59 Tiger
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by the way, the 1975 Alabama team is very underrated in 'those who were hosed.' The way the team progressed each week after the Missouri game and then how Oklahoma bounced back in the polls after a really bad home loss in NOVEMBER has always been a head scratcher.
Yes but '77 is the one that gripes me the most. Too young to remember '66.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:20 pm to WRhodesTider
as I sit here waiting for 5, I looked back at the 1977 through the AP poll's eyes. Alabama made up incredible ground after that Nebraska game. Thanksgiving weekend they were #2 and Oklahoma was #3. But evidently Oklahoma's win over Nebraska really impressed the voters as OU really leap frogged Alabama. And that '77 Nebraska team was living off its name. Not one of Osborne's dominating teams.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:38 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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LSU only officially recognizes 4 football National Championships.
LSUsports.net
Yeah, it even says that on the wiki page, but then when it lists the seasons it has the others marked as NC seasons.
I'm sure it's just some random person who did it.
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