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re: Old BCS (2004 - 2019)
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:39 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:39 am to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:FIXED
2009 BCS Rankings:
1. Alabama 13-0
2. t.u. 13-0
5. Florida 12-1
2 P5 conference unbeatens in the BCS top 6 in 2009.
3. Cincinnati 12-0 (NOT P5)
4. TCU 12-0 (NOT P5)
6. Boise State 13-0 (NOT P5)
Only P5 teams will be considered for the playoffs.
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:39 am to allin2010
This would be another 2003 season really. I have to agree with the OP though.
OSU and LSU would get the NC game.
Clemson would play Oklahoma. There would be a chance for a split NC but I think the winner of OSU and LSU would be the more formal champ.
OSU and LSU would get the NC game.
Clemson would play Oklahoma. There would be a chance for a split NC but I think the winner of OSU and LSU would be the more formal champ.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:40 am to allin2010
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Your Welcome!
my welcome?
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:40 am to Murph4HOF
quote:Fake news.
LOL, yup. Backed out of playing GTU after the 2003 beatdown from the nerds.
quote:The 2004 game was dropped by Tech, not AU.
The 2003 Georgia Tech Game in the Georgia Dome
Auburn played Georgia Tech in 2003 for the first time since their ongoing series had ended with the 1987 matchup. The Yellowjackets defeated the Tigers, 17-3, in a season in which the Tigers mostly struggled on offense with a coordinator-by-committee approach that attempted unsuccessfully to replicate the success and the strategies of Bobby Petrino the previous season.
The game was not originally to have been played at Grant Field, however. That stadium was under renovation at the time, and the plan was to have been for the Tigers and Yellowjackets to meet in the Georgia Dome that season, with a 50/50 ticket split, followed by a home-and-home arrangement for 2004 and 2005. Tech changed the deal so that they could open the season with Auburn in their expanded facility in 2003, and the 2004 game was dropped entirely. The 2005 game was a home matchup for the Tigers.
Nice revisionist history, though.
BTW, here's AU's 2004 schedule:
Louisiana-Monroe (5-6)
@ Mississippi State (3-8)
Louisiana State (9-3)
Citadel (Div 1A)
@ Tennessee (10-3)
Louisiana Tech (6-6)
Arkansas (5-6)
Kentucky (2-9)
@ Mississippi (4-7)
Georgia (10-2)
@ Alabama (6-6)
Tennessee (10-3) SEC Championship
AU defeated #5 LSU, #10 Tennessee, #8 UGa, and #15 Tennessee (again). Other than losses to AU, those teams combined regular season records were 27-3, with 2 of the losses coming against one another.
But Southern Cal and Oklahoma were ranked #1 and #2 all season long, and never lost (despite playing in weaker conferences). IIWII.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:42 am to FearlessFreep
I am sure that an article posted on wareaglereader.com in 2011 is a completely unbiased source.
ETA- I tried looking for a source from that time which talked about the 2004-06 AU/GTU series being adjusted and couldn't find any. Even in Tales From The Auburn 2004 Championship Season written by Richard Scott with a forward written by Tubs, the only mentions of GTU are regarding the 2003 loss to the nerds.
ETA #2 - Barners with the downvotes, lolololololol.
ETA- I tried looking for a source from that time which talked about the 2004-06 AU/GTU series being adjusted and couldn't find any. Even in Tales From The Auburn 2004 Championship Season written by Richard Scott with a forward written by Tubs, the only mentions of GTU are regarding the 2003 loss to the nerds.
ETA #2 - Barners with the downvotes, lolololololol.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:45 am to XbengalTiger
quote:The committee has taken the top 4 teams in the simulated BCS rankings every year.....
Only P5 teams will be considered for the playoffs.
2009 would have likely been
Bama vs TCU
Texas vs Cincy
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:46 am to Murph4HOF
quote:I'd tend to agree, but schit happens.
But I don't see the human element allowing an undefeated defending national champion to be left out.
A 2 x defending AP national champ Alabama didn't win in 1966 after starting as the AP preseason #1 and finishing 12-0 with 6 shutouts, 4 x 30+ pt wins, 4 x 20-29 point wins, and only one single possesion game win, a blowout bowl win over Nebraska (didnt count toward champ selection at the time) and were the only perfect record on the season.
It was arguably one of the Bear's best teams and likely more deserving of a title than the more contreversial 64 and 65 squads. It was the team Vince Lombardi joked about as not being sure he had the best football team in America in 66 because the Packers had not played Alabama.
Completely different set of politics at play. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see Clemson left out in the scenario.
Resume is strongly in LSUs favor and tOSUs and Big 10 bias is still lingering out there just under the surface (evident in this years CFP rankings). Clemson has been one of the two most successful teams in CFB over the past 5 years. But, no one likes a winner. Storylines for Burrow vs tOSU, fan draw (not burned out/cashed out on multiple CFP game attendance over past 5 years), and national TV draw for something different would also influence the decision... aside from a weak ACC schedule and near loss while playing down to UNC.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:52 am to Korin
Actually we had Bowling Green scheduled. They backed out last minute and we had to fill with the Citadel.
I know you hear Bowling Green and think eh that's Bowling Green, however that Bowling Green team was ranked for a majority of the season, and Oklahoma playing them and us playing the Citadel was used as a reason to leave us out.
It wasnt our fault they backed out last second and we had to scramble to fill the slot.
But hey... why let things like facts get in the way of an Auburn bash!
Since the 2004 Auburn squad was so bad they had to schedule terrible OOC games... remind me how that team fared against LSU, UGA, TENN (twice,) and Bama that season?
And it was the 2004 Auburn team that set the entire foundation for the playoffs. No Undefeated SEC Champion had ever been left out of playing for a National Championship before or after. Prior to this happening people wouldn't even think about a +1 game. 2004 Auburn started all of the talks that led to the cfp. You are welcome.
I know you hear Bowling Green and think eh that's Bowling Green, however that Bowling Green team was ranked for a majority of the season, and Oklahoma playing them and us playing the Citadel was used as a reason to leave us out.
It wasnt our fault they backed out last second and we had to scramble to fill the slot.
But hey... why let things like facts get in the way of an Auburn bash!
Since the 2004 Auburn squad was so bad they had to schedule terrible OOC games... remind me how that team fared against LSU, UGA, TENN (twice,) and Bama that season?
And it was the 2004 Auburn team that set the entire foundation for the playoffs. No Undefeated SEC Champion had ever been left out of playing for a National Championship before or after. Prior to this happening people wouldn't even think about a +1 game. 2004 Auburn started all of the talks that led to the cfp. You are welcome.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 8:55 am to CNB
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clemson with their dogshit schedule would’ve gotten left out
Rightfully so.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:01 am to auburn2eugene
quote:Needed the refs to make a call never seen before in college football. Gave AU two changes to kick the PAT and win the game after missing the PAT on the first attempt. The game should have gone to overtime.
remind me how that team fared against LSU
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:04 am to Murph4HOF
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With Cincy being in the Big East back then
The Big East was a BCS conference back then and included multiple teams (Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville) that are now in Power 5 conferences.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:11 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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The Big East was a BCS conference back then and included multiple teams (Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia) that are now in Power 5 conferences.
Yeah no $hit.
I was saying in a hypothetical if say after 2004 the CFP was implemented, the Big East (AAC) was G5 status, then fast forward to the 2009 situation.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:13 am to XbengalTiger
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Needed the refs to make a call never seen before in college football. Gave AU two changes to kick the PAT and win the game after missing the PAT on the first attempt. The game should have gone to overtime.
What happened or not isn't the point. The point is who won? And that penalty you had never seen then, you dont see anymore because its known to be penalty. It's always called. You just dont see people trying to run and jump up over the line anymore. However when you do see it, its always called.
Guess you think you guys won in 2016 as well?
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:23 am to auburn2eugene
quote:That was the first year they called that penalty. It was an early season game. It had never been called before much less used to change the outcome of a game. Our guy jumped straight up and landed on your players back who advanced forward. SEC refs gonna SEC.
However when you do see it, its always called.
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Guess you think you guys won in 2016 as well?
If LSU would have gotten the same biased review that Auburn got against Bama, LSU wins that game. Home cooking on the clock operator. He was leaking time off the clock that whole last drive. Clock would run for an extra second after every play where the clock should stop. Cheaters!
Posted on 12/12/19 at 9:31 am to auburn2eugene
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Actually we had Bowling Green scheduled. They backed out last minute and we had to fill with the Citadel.
I know you hear Bowling Green and think eh that's Bowling Green, however that Bowling Green team was ranked for a majority of the season, and Oklahoma playing them and us playing the Citadel was used as a reason to leave us out.
It wasnt our fault they backed out last second and we had to scramble to fill the slot.
But hey... why let things like facts get in the way of an Auburn bash!
Since the 2004 Auburn squad was so bad they had to schedule terrible OOC games... remind me how that team fared against LSU, UGA, TENN (twice,) and Bama that season?
And it was the 2004 Auburn team that set the entire foundation for the playoffs. No Undefeated SEC Champion had ever been left out of playing for a National Championship before or after. Prior to this happening people wouldn't even think about a +1 game. 2004 Auburn started all of the talks that led to the cfp. You are welcome.
Bowling Green wasn’t an AQ.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:19 am to Murph4HOF
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I was saying in a hypothetical if say after 2004 the CFP was implemented, the Big East (AAC) was G5 status, then fast forward to the 2009 situation
At the end of the 2008 season, here were the following stats:
Record in National Title Games:
SEC: 5-0
Big 12: 2-4
Big East: 1-1
PAC 10: 1-1
ACC: 1-3
Big Ten: 1-3
Record in BCS non-title bowl games:
PAC 10: 8-3
SEC: 7-5
Big East: 5-3
Big 12: 5-5
Big Ten: 7-9
ACC: 1-7
Non-AQ: 3-1
Independent: 0-3
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:20 am to allin2010
Auburn would have gotten smoked by ou and usc
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:30 am to auburn2eugene
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But hey... why let things like facts get in the way of an Auburn bash!
Amen!
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:38 am to BossBailey345
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Auburn would have gotten smoked by ou and usc
I'll $hit on Auburn as much as anyone, but this is garbage.
Auburn's bowl win was against a very solid Virginia Tech who played USC close (24-13 final). USC had 3x < 7 point wins (2 against unranked teams) and another unimpressive 8 point win against an unranked Oregon St.
Then that team blasted Choklahoma.
Counting the vacated win against OU, USC only had 3 wins against ranked teams that year. Auburn had 4 and played the extra game in the SEC CG.
OU also only had 3 teams against ranked teams, and had a live scrimmage vs. a 7-4 Colorado team in the B12 CG.
Posted on 12/12/19 at 10:40 am to Murph4HOF
And yet it was Auburn who avoided an AQ OOC.
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