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re: So who will get the 4th playoff spot ?..
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:31 pm to azcatiger
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:31 pm to azcatiger
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Oregon
Or Oklahoma unless something unexpected happens. I would say that whoever ends number 1 will basically have a bye, but I'm not sure Clemson is that much better than either of those 2. LSU and OSU are on a collision course.
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Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:31 pm to CFFreak
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Bama still has a very good shot of getting in.
bama has 0.0% percent chance of getting in without 2 P5 champs having 2 losses.
Not sure why people still can't get it through their skulls that OSU had 2 losses in 2017.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:32 pm to TigerJeff
TigerJeff. First, keep assuming, hopefully LSU's players assume as well.
Something to add to the discussion.
Strength of schedule as of today for every contender I could think of..
Ranking
2. LSU
6. OSU
7. Georgia
8. Bama
15. Oregon
23. Oklahoma
33. Baylor (yep, it's possible)
38. Minnesota
39. Clemson ( lucky beaches )
Something to add to the discussion.
Strength of schedule as of today for every contender I could think of..
Ranking
2. LSU
6. OSU
7. Georgia
8. Bama
15. Oregon
23. Oklahoma
33. Baylor (yep, it's possible)
38. Minnesota
39. Clemson ( lucky beaches )
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:33 pm to Bill_M
Scenario 1:
LSU, Ohio St, Clemson undefeated; coin flip on Oregon/Oklahoma.
Scenario 2: Ohio State, Clemson undefeated; UGA beats LSU, UGA and LSU both get in at 12-1.
Scenario 3: LSU, Clemson undefeated; Penn St beats Ohio State before the Big 10 championship.
This is where it gets interesting- assume Penn St gets in if they win out, then the choices are Oregon, Oklahoma, Ohio St, Alabama. I almost think Ohio St still gets it.
LSU, Ohio St, Clemson undefeated; coin flip on Oregon/Oklahoma.
Scenario 2: Ohio State, Clemson undefeated; UGA beats LSU, UGA and LSU both get in at 12-1.
Scenario 3: LSU, Clemson undefeated; Penn St beats Ohio State before the Big 10 championship.
This is where it gets interesting- assume Penn St gets in if they win out, then the choices are Oregon, Oklahoma, Ohio St, Alabama. I almost think Ohio St still gets it.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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bama has 0.0% percent chance of getting in without 2 P5 champs having 2 losses.
Not sure why people still can't get it through their skulls that OSU had 2 losses in 2017.
Oregon isnt even better than a shite Auburn team as we have seen on the field
Alabama has a very good chance if that is the best other option
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:34 pm to Scoob
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UGA and LSU both get in at 12-1.
not necessarily
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:35 pm to TigerJeff
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if OU wins out, they'll get in.
OU is going to have to look more impressive against Baylor the second time IMO.
If Oregon handles Utah and OU struggles with Baylor again then I think Oregon goes.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:36 pm to Scoob
ESPN SOS and SOR
SOS
15. Georgia
16. LSU
26. Penn State
34. Alabama
44. Oregon
45. Oklahoma
49. Utah
54. Ohio State
55. Baylor
60. Minnesota
68. Clemson
70. Cincinnati
86. Memphis
SOR
1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Georgia
4. Clemson
5. Penn St
6. Alabama
7. Florida
8. Oregon
9. Baylor
10. Utah
11. Oklahoma
12. Auburn
13. Michigan
14. Minnesota
15. Cincinnati
SOS
15. Georgia
16. LSU
26. Penn State
34. Alabama
44. Oregon
45. Oklahoma
49. Utah
54. Ohio State
55. Baylor
60. Minnesota
68. Clemson
70. Cincinnati
86. Memphis
SOR
1. LSU
2. Ohio State
3. Georgia
4. Clemson
5. Penn St
6. Alabama
7. Florida
8. Oregon
9. Baylor
10. Utah
11. Oklahoma
12. Auburn
13. Michigan
14. Minnesota
15. Cincinnati
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:36 pm to YF12
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Oregon isnt even better than a shite Auburn team
and?
It's not about the "eye test" it's about resumes. Oregon would be a 12-1 P5 conference champion. Bama would be an 11-1 team that didn't win their division. They wouldn't stand a chance at going above oregon even with tua healthy.
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Alabama has a very good chance
If by "no chance" then sure I agree.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:38 pm to Bill_M
Well if both Oregon and Utah go into the Pac-12 title with 1 loss each then most likely the winner of that game
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:40 pm to YF12
I seriously doubt a alabama team with their second string qb gets in. That's why you have people instead of computers voting for this.
To me its simple if Georgia beats lsu its set
LSU, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio state.
If LSU beats Georgia, substitute Oregon for Georgia
The playoff contenders are so weak this year that if Clemson, ohio state and lsu all make their champ game undefeated they can all lose that game and still get in.
To me its simple if Georgia beats lsu its set
LSU, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio state.
If LSU beats Georgia, substitute Oregon for Georgia
The playoff contenders are so weak this year that if Clemson, ohio state and lsu all make their champ game undefeated they can all lose that game and still get in.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:41 pm to Bill_M
All signs point to Oregon/Utah winner. Or Oklahoma or Georgia as conference champions with one loss only.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:41 pm to MeatPants
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The playoff contenders are so weak this year that if Clemson, ohio state and lsu all make their champ game undefeated they can all lose that game and still get in.
LSU and Ohio State maybe, but not Clemson. Clemson has to win out IMO.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:42 pm to MeatPants
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To me its simple if Georgia beats lsu its set
LSU, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio state.
I don't think it's simple at all, and you'd have a mega-discussion on the 4th spot going to the Big 12 champ/Pac 12 champ/or lsu. Although I think LSU would mop the floor with either one of htose other teams they would be lacking a title which the committee very strongly favors.
Furthermore, this wouldn't be a 2017 situation where bama and uga hadn't played. UGA and LSU woudl have just met on 12/7 and I doubt the committee woudl have them play each other again a month later.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:48 pm to WG_Dawg
The eye test literally IS one of the main factors with the human element of voting now. Proven by strength of schedule is only a variable. The best teams are supposed to get in. People seriously think the Oregon’s, Minnesota’s, Penn State’s of the football world are better teams than Bama? Bama’s weak schedule is mostly by chance. A lot of these teams were high ranking teams a few years ago when these schedules were made. Troll all you want but if you’re being serious you know Bama still has a great shot at getting in if they continue to play well without Tua and win out. And that reason is because they are a very good football team and would probably handle those previous mentioned teams pretty easily, as they always have over recent years. See Notre Dame for example. Bama has handled all those types of teams no problem. OSU, Clemson, and Oklahoma being the ONLY exceptions. And those teams are def better than the others.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:51 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I'm going on probability here, obviously we don't know until the selections.quote:
UGA and LSU both get in at 12-1.
not necessarily
LSU has checked the boxes, assuming they get to 12-0.
Marquee OOC game (Texas, even though they're falling), on the road no less. Not at home or even neutral field, they went into Austin and did it.
Slayed the dragon: went INTO Tuscaloosa and beat Bama.
Other worthy games- beat Auburn and Florida.
As opposed to:
Oregon- one good OOC game, a loss at a neutral site to a good Auburn team that is out of contention.
Oklahoma- no good OOC games, and a slip-up in conference. Some other really tight games down the stretch.
Alabama- no OOC games, a lesser conference schedule (no Fla, no UGA), and a loss head-to-head, at home.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:53 pm to RollTideRandall
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Troll all you want
what's really infuriating about this board is that I've truly only posted the actual, in real life, black and white facts of what the committee has done every year they've been around, and people think it's trollign because it's not in agreement wiht you.
Here's what I'm going off of: LINK Thsi isn't speculation or conjecture or guess work, it's actual real life and what has actually happened. Zero teams have gotten in with bama's resume. Ever. Only 2 teams out of 20 have made the playoffs without winning their conference, and both of those times were only because there were 2 P5 champs with 2 losses. Sorry if you don't want to accept that, but unless we again have multiple champs wiht multkple losses bama is entirely done.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 12:53 pm to Bill_M
Bill, I believe you are spot on. Geaux Tigers. ??
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:22 pm to Topisawtiger
You have Bama blinders on. Bama defense looks like crap and they are playing against crappy teams.
The eye test says they really aren't that good (plsyoff good) especially without Tua. They aren't a top four team this year. They aren't any better than Oklahoma and the sooners should be nowhere near the playoffs this year
Come back and try next year bama
The eye test says they really aren't that good (plsyoff good) especially without Tua. They aren't a top four team this year. They aren't any better than Oklahoma and the sooners should be nowhere near the playoffs this year
Come back and try next year bama
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:24 pm to Bill_M
Oregon or Utah. Sorry mutts and elephants.
They aren't leaving a one loss Pac 12 team out this year.
They aren't leaving a one loss Pac 12 team out this year.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 1:27 pm
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