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Honest question, is our WR coach getting it done?
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:35 am
Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:35 am
I know we are young and thankfully Cager transfered in and DRob has been streaky.
But not seeing the young guys helping Fromm out as the 2017 crew did. You have got to create separation and not every throw is going to be where you want it. They have to be going against better comp in practice than the majority of the teams we have played.
WR is the teams biggest weakness outside of punting.
Not saying they aren't improving but the WRs missed some opportunities again.
More so than ever, they have to improve as a unit for this team to get where we want to go. Which is fully possible.
But not seeing the young guys helping Fromm out as the 2017 crew did. You have got to create separation and not every throw is going to be where you want it. They have to be going against better comp in practice than the majority of the teams we have played.
WR is the teams biggest weakness outside of punting.
Not saying they aren't improving but the WRs missed some opportunities again.
More so than ever, they have to improve as a unit for this team to get where we want to go. Which is fully possible.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:07 am to lewis and herschel
I'm just glad to see them holding onto routine catches for the most part and some of the grabs have been spectacular.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:26 am to lewis and herschel
I am actually quite pleased with the blocking, route running, catching, etc. I'm more worried about tight end, TBH.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:31 am to lewis and herschel
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the WRs missed some opportunities again.
Outside of the Simmons drop on a crossing pattern, our WRs didn’t have a single missed opportunity all day I would expect them to have made.
Can you name one?
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:33 am to lewis and herschel
They’ve been generally fine imo. HS to college wr is a tough transition.
I don’t like how they seem to be using Pickens as pretty much a fade route specialist. I get that it avoids risk, but he’s shown some capability to have a more diverse route tree.
I don’t like how they seem to be using Pickens as pretty much a fade route specialist. I get that it avoids risk, but he’s shown some capability to have a more diverse route tree.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:36 am to Dawgsontop34
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Can you name one?
What? Do you actually expect a complainer to back up his gripe? It'll get awfully quiet in here.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:42 am to lewis and herschel
We don’t have anyone dominant other than Cager thus far, but the ball is also being spread to a lot of players. I think you need to look at what we are trying to do on offense. First, it is a cumulative thing. We want to get first downs. Make them run side to side. Wear them down.
The formation we are using a good bit has twins to both sides. First thing this does is spread out the defense. It puts a lot of defensive players on Islands. They have to respect and make tackles on those short, outside passes. This affects the positioning of their safeties. It also gives our dominant O Line an advantage running that dive, which overall, we have done a nice job with all season. The only legit knock on our Offense is our lack of ability at times to get the 3rd or 4th and 1. UT stunted the gap a few times and stopped us, but we also ran over them a few times as well as made a nice pass. We may need to be more creative on those plays or at least do a better job with blocking schemes for that dive play on short yardage situations when the Defense can take more chances stunting.
The formation we are using a good bit has twins to both sides. First thing this does is spread out the defense. It puts a lot of defensive players on Islands. They have to respect and make tackles on those short, outside passes. This affects the positioning of their safeties. It also gives our dominant O Line an advantage running that dive, which overall, we have done a nice job with all season. The only legit knock on our Offense is our lack of ability at times to get the 3rd or 4th and 1. UT stunted the gap a few times and stopped us, but we also ran over them a few times as well as made a nice pass. We may need to be more creative on those plays or at least do a better job with blocking schemes for that dive play on short yardage situations when the Defense can take more chances stunting.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:03 pm to lewis and herschel
Blocking has been very good. Pickens needs to improve on route running
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:26 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Outside of the Simmons drop on a crossing pattern, our WRs didn’t have a single missed opportunity all day I would expect them to have made.
Can you name one?
I think the WR crew is doing a very good job. Coaches, too. Cager has really improved catching with his hands (look at his miami highlights and he tries to cradle everything against his body).
But they are an easy spot on the field to pick on because of the number of passes that hit their hands which they don't hold onto.
The first TD attempt to Pickens that was incomplete... he tried to catch it with 1 hand. Not smart. Grab it with 2. Why make a circus catch out of a throw when it isn't needed.
Check out Fromm's incompletions. The vast majority of them have hit hands (they may not be perfect passes. But Fromm isn't missing by much. As has been said... help the team out with some catches).
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:37 pm to meansonny
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The first TD attempt to Pickens that was incomplete... he tried to catch it with 1 hand. Not smart. Grab it with 2. Why make a circus catch out of a throw when it isn't needed.
I didn't like the way Pickens went after it, but it wasn't an easy catch. Receivers even at the highest level don't catch every ball thrown their way. Our WRs have been more than satisfactory considering what we lost from last year.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 1:48 pm to lewis and herschel
I like what I've seen overall. Every week is more learning and practice for the new guys, but both Pickens and Blaylock are progressing.
Guys who were basically freshmen or redshirts last season (Robertson, K. Jackson) have also done some good things.
Landers remains a little puzzling. Could be on the verge of really good but maybe he'll be passed by others. I had high hopes for the kid from Texas (Bush) but wondering if he's going to be a medical redshirt this season with the groin injury. Is he even practicing?
We've now got another two games that we shouldn't have to stress over as much, so it's again more time for this unit.
Just really glad we got Cager, since he's stepped up as the seasoned veteran for us.
I also think we could make more use of Cook as a slot receiver.
Guys who were basically freshmen or redshirts last season (Robertson, K. Jackson) have also done some good things.
Landers remains a little puzzling. Could be on the verge of really good but maybe he'll be passed by others. I had high hopes for the kid from Texas (Bush) but wondering if he's going to be a medical redshirt this season with the groin injury. Is he even practicing?
We've now got another two games that we shouldn't have to stress over as much, so it's again more time for this unit.
Just really glad we got Cager, since he's stepped up as the seasoned veteran for us.
I also think we could make more use of Cook as a slot receiver.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:55 pm to grey
Tight end has been a highlight to this point. Wolf has more than replaced Nauta.
As it pertains to WR just be nice to either hit long passes for TDs or have plays that hit wrs in stride for long plays. We have done a lot of digs and outs, mostly at the first down marker, which is good. The tunnel/bubble screen early was almost a thing of beauty.
With UF and TG looming, be nice to throw over his d a few times to make them defend the entire field.
As it pertains to WR just be nice to either hit long passes for TDs or have plays that hit wrs in stride for long plays. We have done a lot of digs and outs, mostly at the first down marker, which is good. The tunnel/bubble screen early was almost a thing of beauty.
With UF and TG looming, be nice to throw over his d a few times to make them defend the entire field.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:11 pm to Dawgsontop34
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didn't like the way Pickens went after it, but it wasn't an easy catch. Receivers even at the highest level don't catch every ball thrown their way. Our WRs have been more than satisfactory considering what we lost from last year.
Yeah. Something was definitely off between Pickens and Fromm. The throw was too flat for the coverage. Either Fromm missed the read or Pickens didn't run the route correctly.
Either way, trying to catch the ball with 1 hand isnt a best method when we want a TD
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