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Any SEC Programs Implicated in Varsity Blues?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:55 am
Sounds like some Sailing Coach at Stanford is about to be the first head to roll in the nationwide college entrance scandal.
Were any SEC schools implicated?
Were any SEC schools implicated?
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:58 am to Vecchio Cane
Never knew there was a right way and a wrong way to bribe your kid into school.... Drop coin to have a building named after you, junior gets in, buy off a coach to get precious in, heads roll.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:59 am to Vecchio Cane
Sailing is an ncaa sport, or is it crew? If it's sailing, I'm nominating all 4 equestrian teams.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:08 am to Vecchio Cane
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Were any SEC schools implicated?
doubt it, with how closely recruiting is followed in the SEC I doubt someone that has zero athletic ability getting a scholarship goes unnoticed.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:11 am to lewis and herschel
quote:One goes to the school and benefits all or most students.
Never knew there was a right way and a wrong way to bribe your kid into school.... Drop coin to have a building named after you, junior gets in, buy off a coach to get precious in, heads roll.
The other goes to an individual defying his moral obligations.
It’s pretty clear to me.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:14 am to civiltiger07
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doubt it, with how closely recruiting is followed in the SEC I doubt someone that has zero athletic ability getting a scholarship goes unnoticed.
They were not given scholarships, just preferred admission as a recruited walk on. Literally nobody follows that in non revenue sports.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:16 am to Ag Zwin
If you don't get in on your own merit, while others have to, you hurt the greater good. Pretty clear to me...
Heck, look at Bama, naming shite after people can go terribly wrong.
Heck, look at Bama, naming shite after people can go terribly wrong.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:19 am to MoarKilometers
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with how closely recruiting is followed in the SEC
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just preferred admission as a recruited walk on
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Literally nobody follows that in non revenue sports.
yea but also at Stanford the athletics department consist of 16 men's teams and 20 women's teams. For a comparison the LSU athletic department consist of 16 teams total. I believe that is someone was on one those LSU teams that had never played the sport it would come out.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:21 am to lewis and herschel
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If you don't get in on your own merit, while others have to, you hurt the greater good. Pretty clear to me...
If the school gets a few million, and your place does not come at the expense of another applicant, is it better to have that money or to keep the kid out for the sake of a fairly abstract standard?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:21 am to lewis and herschel
Dropping coin to get a building named after you at Georgia and dropping coin to get a building named after you at Stanford or Yale or USCw are two entirely different things. Going rates are going to be a little different given your donor competition
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:25 am to Ag Zwin
You choose where the line is as life is abstract. There was a time where you had football players that made millions for the University that read at a 4 th grade level...
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:43 am to Vecchio Cane
Only school would be Vandy probably
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:45 am to lewis and herschel
I think the issue with these are bribery and money laundering
Also a few associated with this had people take their SATs for them
Just don’t get why Aunt Becky couldn’t just donate the money to the school and they let her in
Also a few associated with this had people take their SATs for them
Just don’t get why Aunt Becky couldn’t just donate the money to the school and they let her in
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:49 am to I Bleed Garnet
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think the issue with these are bribery and money laundering
Also a few associated with this had people take their SATs for them
Yup, lots of schools give preferred walk on spots to donors, so they can say they are part of the team.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:49 am to I Bleed Garnet
Agree, walk in and say, I want to make a large donation to the University and leave my daughter's application, though she's not that into college and the deans yo...it's a big check.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:51 am to Vecchio Cane
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Were any SEC schools implicated?
The schools were Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Northwestern, Georgetown, USC, etc.
If your kid can't get the 18 ACT and 2.0 GPA required to get into Bama or Kentucky, it's probably just as well that they go directly into the family business.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:57 am to UAtide11
What we are seeing is those schools have some elite students and elite professors and candidates working towards phds, but the truth is, the balance of the undergrad student population is not that much greater intellectually than anywhere else. Just there to pay the bills. The next massive scheme is sat and act prep. You spend to years preparing and spending tons of money with pros, your kid is inflating their score artificially compared to those who take it with little prep.
It's not meant to be a who prepared better test, just a baseline of what you learned to that point.
It's not meant to be a who prepared better test, just a baseline of what you learned to that point.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 11:04 am to lewis and herschel
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the balance of the undergrad student population is not that much greater intellectually than anywhere else.
I disagree with this premise, but that's not the point.
The point is the outcomes of students that attend those schools is, on average, drastically different that those that attend middle of the road state schools. Getting your foot in the door at Princeton or the University of Chicago puts you on an entirely different trajectory than 'sneaking' into Florida.
And Florida is a very good school.
I absolutely loved my time in Tuscaloosa, but it'd be disingenuous for me to pretend it's in the same stratosphere as the schools mentioned in this case. And that goes for pretty much all of the schools in the SEC regardless of what any rankings might say
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:34 pm to Vecchio Cane
Heard something about Bama and their kickers.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:42 pm to lewis and herschel
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Agree, walk in and say, I want to make a large donation to the University and leave my daughter's application, though she's not that into college and the deans yo...it's a big check.
But instead they laundered money through some guy who takes the SATs for kids
That guy then bribed a coach at USC to take her daughter as a scholarship tower or whatever sport it was
Very much different than just making a donation
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