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re: BREAKING NEWS: The University of Alabama will hire Nate Oats of Buffalo as its next coach

Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68678 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Yea - the pros on him are that he has a very defined principled philosophy of basketball that is based around playing fast, quick possessions and good shooting.

If it's bad, at least it won't be stand around sludge bad.


It just feels better to lose a game 81-84 than 65-84
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35936 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:44 pm to
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He's no good anyway though. Amirite?

Are you kidding me?

Thad Matta is a hall of fame level coach.

Made the tournament 13 of 17 seasons as a head coach and has 439-154 overall record.

That is crazy good.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:45 pm to
Not the home run Thad Matta would have been, but I like this guy. Same question as any mid major hire, will it work out when he jumps to the big leagues?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30319 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:45 pm to
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I agree with Smoove. Bama needed a name. Some white dude from Wisconsin with 4 years experiance won't cut it. Should be fun.


If the doesn't cut it, he will get canned just like Avery.

Alabama will NOT retain a high priced coach that turns in mediocre results, can't develop his players, doesn't recruit to his system, and can't adjust his scheme to fit his personnel.
Posted by BAMAneck
Lee county
Member since Aug 2016
1788 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:45 pm to
Never heard of him .

First thing I thought of when I heard the name was a cartoon on adult swim about a horse rapping about Oats . and only used the word Oats the whole song .. Bad arse.


Oats oats , oats oats Oats

Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:47 pm to
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It's way to early to judge Oats, but he inherited a ton of talent from what Bobby Hurley built at Buffalo.

Hurley is doing the same thing at Arizona St. ASU won 15 games Hurley's first two years, then 20 and 23 games the next two with NCAA appearances


Oates just beat Hurley in the tourney.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18292 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:47 pm to
Don't know anything about him but he's not Avery. Good job.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:48 pm to
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“You’ll see Nick Saban go crazy when (Alabama is) up three touchdowns in the fourth quarter,” Oats says. “Well, that’s what’s starting to irritate me. We’re up 28, for instance, at St. Bonaventure. We’re supposed to win that game by 35 to 40. Well, we don’t. We won it by 18 because we don’t keep our foot on the gas pedal.”



LOL - it was destiny
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted by DinosaursAreReal
Member since Nov 2018
1387 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:48 pm to
Exactly. People are acting like he was interim or something. He was the coach since 2015 and made back to back tourneys. Dude knows what he’s doing.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68678 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:49 pm to
He needs to be on the phone with Lewis and Petty right now, looks like he LOVES to jack up a shite ton of 3's.
Posted by UBBullsFan
Member since Mar 2019
10 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:49 pm to
For those of you wanting any insight into Oates, this was exactly what we feared would happen at the end of this season. While we were hoping that his recent contract extension would buy us at least one more year, we kind of knew this was coming, as is the life of being one of the poors in Mid Major.

So it is no secret that UB kind of floundered around MAC mediocrity before Bobby Hurley arrived in Buffalo. A huge part of his success, however, was the hiring of Nate Oates from Romulus High School who directly brought in Justin Moss, Raheem Johnson, and later, Wes Clark, and indirectly, Nick Perkins. All of these players were critical to the turnaround of the program, and for those claiming they were "Bobby Hurley's players", is sort of misleading because the main reason Bobby had them in the first place was because of Nate Oates.

Schematically, assuming he does not do a complete 180, you can expect extremely tough man to man defense that thrives on pressuring the ball handlers into turnovers, and subsequently fast breaks. Offensively, they tend to spread out the court in an effort to create driving lanes and open threes. While we never had particularly good shooters, we shoot them... Alot.

Recruiting wise, while I am obviously bummed at his loss, I am really hoping UB is smart enough to retain his assistant coach Brian Hodgson, as he was instrumental in the recruiting of many of our main players on this year's team. UB really found a niche in the JUCO market, and I'll be curious to see if Oates continues that trend, or, since he is at a school with a much larger athletic budget now, does he go after the 4 year players.

All in all, I do think Oates is a heck of a coach when it comes to the xs and os, I'll just be curious to see if and how his recruiting strategy changes as he moves to a "power conference". Like I said before, although I hope it does not happen, if he brings along his assistant coach Hodgson, it will be particularly good for you guys, so it'll be interesting to see.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30319 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:49 pm to
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Another Jelly of the Month hire. This happens when ADs are pressured by the clock. Might work out, but why do they take a chance?


Because why pay $3MM/yr to a HC who's players quit on him and damn near the entire fan base gave up on? Why over pay for mediocrity another freaking year?
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7991 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to
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Oates just beat Hurley in the tourney.


Yes and even though it is possible Hurley did the evaluations and targeted the Sr's on this squad he never coached any of them. They aren't the 4 and 5 start can't miss type recruits. These are players that had to be and judging by the results were developed. That alone is a huge upgrade over AJ whose players seemed to actually get worse the more time they were on campus.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:50 pm to
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UBBullsFan




You guys have turned into a program that churns out good coaches. I'm sure whoever is next will be just as good.

Thanks for the write up - good stuff
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12640 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:51 pm to
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It just feels better to lose a game 81-84 than 65-84


No doubt. Watching Alabama basketball has been a chore for awhile now, and it's not just cause they lose.

I don't think some of the people on here realize that this year's team would openly admit to not trying . All Nate has to do to improve the entertainment value year 1 is get the players to try.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:51 pm to
My point is pay and go after the best. Too many times it is cheaper.
Posted by AUlock54
Member since Dec 2016
1515 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:53 pm to
Tony Barbee and Anthony Grant had their mid major programs in the tourney as well. You can say this is a great hire if you want to but truly nobody will know. This guy has zero experience recruiting in the South East so I highly doubt he’ll be able to get some good players in a season or two. Then the fans will gripe in 4 years and fire him. Rinse and repeat until they get them a proven coach.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:54 pm to
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Tony Barbee and Anthony Grant had their mid major programs in the tourney as well. You can say this is a great hire if you want to but truly nobody will know. This guy has zero experience recruiting in the South East so I highly doubt he’ll be able to get some good players in a season or two. Then the fans will gripe in 4 years and fire him. Rinse and repeat until they get them a proven coach.




Maybe, or maybe he's Bruce Pearl at Tennessee or Billy Donovan at Florida or Mark Gottfried at Alabama.

We'll see.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 3:56 pm
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12640 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:54 pm to
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UBBullsFan




UB has become sort of a G5 powerhouse recently. Really good basketball team, and I think a 9 or 10 win team in football this past season with the former Wisconsin-White Water coach. They seem to really be finding good coaches off the radar.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 3:55 pm to
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This guy has zero experience recruiting in the South East


This doesn't matter as much in basketball when compared to football.
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