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Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:10 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:10 am
I originally asked this question back in August. . .and I'll ask it again now.
I will preface the question with this: In my opinion, Mark Richt's Achilles heel was that he could not beat Alabama and Nick Saban. As preseason #1, he got destroyed in the 2008 blackout game, lost the close 2012 SEC Championship game, and then the nail in the coffin was the 2015 game in Athens that was just as bad as the 2008 loss, if not worse.
Will the pressure slowly start mounting around Kirby if he loses again to Alabama?
I will preface the question with this: In my opinion, Mark Richt's Achilles heel was that he could not beat Alabama and Nick Saban. As preseason #1, he got destroyed in the 2008 blackout game, lost the close 2012 SEC Championship game, and then the nail in the coffin was the 2015 game in Athens that was just as bad as the 2008 loss, if not worse.
Will the pressure slowly start mounting around Kirby if he loses again to Alabama?
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:13 am to Stidham8
Mark Richt's Achilles' heel was his shitty offensive line recruiting.
Kirby has done about as good a job as could be expected when we hired him. Alabama is still a monster, and we are a big underdog for a reason. A loss on Saturday isn't going to change anything.
Kirby has done about as good a job as could be expected when we hired him. Alabama is still a monster, and we are a big underdog for a reason. A loss on Saturday isn't going to change anything.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:14 am to Stidham8
No. Mark Richts Achilles heel was he couldn't get it done against teams he should've beat. Alabama didn't cause richt to lose hos job. When he started a 3rd string QB against Florida and didn't pull him after 4 interceptions is when richt lost his job imo.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:15 am to Stidham8
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I originally asked this question back in August. . .and I'll ask it again now.
I will preface the question with this: In my opinion, Mark Richt's Achilles heel was that he could not beat Alabama and Nick Saban. As preseason #1, he got destroyed in the 2008 blackout game, lost the close 2012 SEC Championship game, and then the nail in the coffin was the 2015 game in Athens that was just as bad as the 2008 loss, if not worse.
Will the pressure slowly start mounting around Kirby if he loses again to Alabama?
Richt's Achilles heel was he couldn't win big games towards to back end of his career, not just he couldn't beat Saban. Saban was an after thought considering his record against Florida over the course of his employment with UGA. His lack of recruiting in the trenches were probably his ultimate downfall. We should have never been ranked #1 going into 2008 because of the shitasctic OL we had. Richts main problem was that he could never get all facets of the game to work together seamlessly. He would have a good defense, but the offense sucked. He would have an all world offense but the defense was shite. One doesn't have to have #1 rankings in O and D but you cant have a great disparity and plan to win it all.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:25 am to Stidham8
I would think Kirby's clock for establishing Georgia and beating Alabama in a title game wouldnt start until next year.
Year 4, experienced highly rated recruiting classes, totally his program, etc.
Year 4, experienced highly rated recruiting classes, totally his program, etc.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:28 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I would think Kirby's clock for establishing Georgia and beating Alabama in a title game wouldnt start until next year. Year 4, experienced highly rated recruiting classes, totally his program, etc.
Agreed. I’m saying losing this game would start really putting the heat on him to beat Alabama.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:29 am to UGADawg912
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No. Mark Richts Achilles heel was he couldn't get it done against teams he should've beat. Alabama didn't cause richt to lose hos job. When he started a 3rd string QB against Florida and didn't pull him after 4 interceptions is when richt lost his job imo.
I remember after the 2012 loss to Bama that the narrative was that he could never win the big game. Be it the blackout, SEC Championships, etc.
It just seems like Kirby is set to be put in a similar path if he loses this game.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:32 am to Stidham8
Saban certainly wasn't the only guy CMR lost to. But Saban did become the marker- Bama was the program we knew we couldn't compete with as long as CMR and Saban were coaching. For example, we have more 4* and 5* Fresh/ Soph O-linemen than Richt brought in during his entire tenure. You simply can't win in the SEC without a good OL. CMR couldn't, or wouldn't fix it.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:33 am to Stidham8
Richt just did not get it period. You can't hamstring your self with moronic judgement like a drug test the week after spring break and a masachist's way of dealing with minor player transgressions that are never heard about at peer schools. Damon Evans was a real piece of shite and is showing it as Maryland's AD.
Miami will shite can his disconnected arse if he does not get it together next year.
We are far more patient.
Miami will shite can his disconnected arse if he does not get it together next year.
We are far more patient.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:34 am to WorkinDawg
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Saban certainly wasn't the only guy CMR lost to. But Saban did become the marker- Bama was the program we knew we couldn't compete with as long as CMR and Saban were coaching. For example, we have more 4* and 5* Fresh/ Soph O-linemen than Richt brought in during his entire tenure. You simply can't win in the SEC without a good OL. CMR couldn't, or wouldn't fix it.
Then I take it that the fans expect Kirby to beat saban and not lose to him again?
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:36 am to Stidham8
Ask any Florida fan, and they’ll tell you his Achilles Heel was Treon Harris.
They’d be right.
They’d be right.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:37 am to Stidham8
There were far more frustrations with Richt than simply not beating Saban.
ETA: 2015 made it very clear that UGA was getting further away, not closer, to Saban and was unlikely to recover given the roster at the time, so I guess that could be considered a factor in that sense.
ETA: 2015 made it very clear that UGA was getting further away, not closer, to Saban and was unlikely to recover given the roster at the time, so I guess that could be considered a factor in that sense.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:38 am to UGADawg912
[quote]No. Mark Richts Achilles heel was he couldn't get it done against teams he should've beaT. [/quote
This. It’s nice to finally be beating teams in a fashion that is proportionate to the talent levels on the field, and not just eeking by.
ETA: Or worse, losing to those teams.
This. It’s nice to finally be beating teams in a fashion that is proportionate to the talent levels on the field, and not just eeking by.
ETA: Or worse, losing to those teams.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:39 am to lewis and herschel
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You can't hamstring your self with moronic judgement like a drug test the week after spring break and a masachist's way of dealing with minor player transgressions that are never heard about at peer schools.
You just brought back horrible, horrible memories. My wife had to talk me out of dropping my tickets when that went down. Hell, in the 2012 game we had less scholarship players than USC did....and USC was in the midst of probation. Think an extra linemen or two might've helped in that game???
Being a UGA fan isn't cheap. I don't want to be the 86 Hurricanes, but I don't want to ruin our own season, every year either.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:40 am to Stidham8
Richt had many more problems than Alabama.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:40 am to Stidham8
Mar Richt was not pushed out because of Alabama. It was his inability to consistently beat teams we had a talent advantage over.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:41 am to Stidham8
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Then I take it that the fans expect Kirby to beat saban and not lose to him again?
If they all believe that, it's a foolish notion. No team in this conference beats Saban consistently enough to have a winning record vs. him, and UGA has only done it a handful of times counting his tenure with LSU. And Saban has never lost to a former pupil. Eventually, he will...but not this week.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:44 am to Stidham8
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Then I take it that the fans expect Kirby to beat saban and not lose to him again?
Not at all. Our studs are very, very young. Bama's got a roster full of those kind of players. Every year we close the gap a little more. When Kirby has a roster full of his kids, I think we should certainly be 50/50 vs Bama. The outcome of Saturday's game is immaterial to achieving that goal imo. Plus, it is foolish to say failure is "never losing again" to the greatest college coach of all time.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:05 am to Stidham8
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Then I take it that the fans expect Kirby to beat saban and not lose to him again?
I'm not sure I expect us to win the game Saturday, but it's certainly possible and I'm not automatically expecting us to lose.
If Richt was at the helm I wouldn't assume we had a snowballs chance in hell in this game.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:06 am to Stidham8
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I take it that the fans expect Kirby to beat saban and not lose to him again?
Why would any reasonable person think this or ask such a question?
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