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What makes Saban so much better at player development than all other coaches?

Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:23 pm
He obviously gets talent, but he develops the hell out of it.

Even his 3 star guys’ games elevate to elite levels.

Is it the deer antler spray?
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:25 pm to
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Is it the deer antler spray?

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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:27 pm to
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He obviously gets talent, but he develops the hell out of it.

Even his 3 star guys’ games elevate to elite levels.

He also gets five stars than don’t pan out, like everyone else. It’s a lot easier to develop talent when you roster is loaded with it.

I think the man is tGOAT but let’s not act like he didn’t have the most ridiculous stretch of recruiting we’ve ever seen.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:27 pm to
Do other coaches not have access to this spray?
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:29 pm to
Bama’s 5-stars bust far less than any other teams’.

I saw a stat once that was shocking. I’ll see if I can dig it up.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:33 pm to
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Even his 3 star guys’ games elevate to elite levels.
Doesn't matter the star rating. If you want to see the field at Bama, you have to eventually play at a 5 star level or your arse is on the bench. The 3 stars that sign on for Bama know this and are surrounded by competition that will push them. If they don't have the heart, they get processed.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:35 pm to
He’s the best coach ever
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26766 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:36 pm to
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If you want to see the field at Bama, you have to eventually play at a 5 star level or your arse is on the bench. The 3 stars that sign on for Bama know this and are surrounded by competition that will push them. If they don't have the heart, they get processed.

Exactly. A five star at another school thinks he’s the crap. A five star at bama is just another guy and is having to beat out 3 more guys that were ranked just as high.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:37 pm to
Talent & Detail
Posted by Dawgnation1975
Covington
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:37 pm to
Basically unlimited resources
Posted by Paul B Ammer
The Mecca of Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2017
2423 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Do other coaches not have access to this spray?


No

The formulation used by Bama is proprietary and is developed by the Ammer Foundation for Deer Antler Spray Research. It has been extensively tested and modified.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:38 pm to
Driving a free Dodge Charger just makes you a better football player
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:39 pm to
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Do other coaches not have access to this spray?

Apparently not.

I watched the game with my brother-n-law and two female nurses who barely watch football.

They both commented on how bama plays like they are on some kind of drug. They asked why do they play like they are all in a violent rage. Are they on steroids?

I actually have a more nuanced opinion. They are most definitely on something that other teams aren't using or they are using double doses. But they also take on the personality of their coach who is an angry little man. So its like watching big strong world class athletes who play with all the rage of a 5'6 man with a 5 inch penis who is angry at the world.

This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:53 pm to
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He also gets five stars than don’t pan out, like everyone else. It’s a lot easier to develop talent when you roster is loaded with it.


Yeah at a much lower rate. Nationally about 50% of all 5 stars get drafted. 22/28 draft eligible 5 stars for Saban's Alabama have been drafted; 14 of those were first round picks, the national rate for that is ~17%.

Numbers are from a few years ago but I doubt there's been much change.
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 3:54 pm
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:53 pm to
HGH and steroids
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:55 pm to
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5'6 man with a 5 inch penis


You just described about 2 billion Asians.

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 3:57 pm to


Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
4366 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:03 pm to
Coach Saban apparently has a unique and semi-proprietary method of evaluating recruits. This was mentioned when he alluded to coaches leaving his employ to coach elsewhere, and taking his system of evaluation with them.

If you had a way of testing a recruit to see the level of his physical and or mental maturity, you could do a lot of things with lesser ranked recruits. But beyond that, read Clinton-Dix's comments on "the process." It is enlightening.

LINK
This post was edited on 11/4/18 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2975 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:06 pm to
The process.
Posted by Central Pork
Member since Jul 2014
1286 posts
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:16 pm to
In the series of videos prior to the season that showed the Bama practices, I was amazed at how organized and intense the Bama practices were. Saban was on top of every detail and made the players and coaches get it right.

Of course, having top talent is key, but getting everybody on the same page and executing things in a manner that gives you the best chance of success is what sets Saban apart from most coaches. IMO
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