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Quick shoutout to UK for giving Mark Stoops the proper time to build his program.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 3:50 pm
In an age where "Win now or else" is the overwhelming sentiment of SEC athletic directors, UK instead chose to be patient with their investment and it's finally starting to pay off.
Have Mark's results to date been outstanding? No.
Have there been times where things looked pessimistic? Yes.
Have Mark's results improved steadily over the years, though? YES.
Granted it's still early in the season, but just one look at UK's football program today reveals a stable, competitive program that wasn't there 5 years ago.
After three straight losing seasons to start his career, no one would've blamed UK for canning him. Hats off to the admin for sticking with their pick because they believed he was right for the program.
I also think this reveals a silver lining to having a fanbase with realistic expectations: A football program with a steady foundation is easier to build.
Have Mark's results to date been outstanding? No.
Have there been times where things looked pessimistic? Yes.
Have Mark's results improved steadily over the years, though? YES.
Granted it's still early in the season, but just one look at UK's football program today reveals a stable, competitive program that wasn't there 5 years ago.
After three straight losing seasons to start his career, no one would've blamed UK for canning him. Hats off to the admin for sticking with their pick because they believed he was right for the program.
I also think this reveals a silver lining to having a fanbase with realistic expectations: A football program with a steady foundation is easier to build.
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Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:00 pm to redbird4state
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realistic expectations
Tennessee and Arkansas fans, please pay attention to this part.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:01 pm to redbird4state
It also took that long because Joker Phillips was so bad.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:06 pm to redbird4state
The reality was, for anyone who wasn’t one of those basketball-only mouth breathers, that everybody knew you can’t turn around a football program in a short time. It takes multiple recruiting classes to come to fruition. This is probably the first year since he’s been at UK we’ve had legitimate depth. Kudos to Barnhart for having that patience.
Like you said, he’s frustrating at times. But he’s also a first time HC in a tough league on a learning curve.
Like you said, he’s frustrating at times. But he’s also a first time HC in a tough league on a learning curve.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:11 pm to BluegrassBelle
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This is probably the first year since he’s been at UK we’ve had legitimate depth.
Exactly. And unlike other sports, depth takes a lot more time to build in college football. This is especially true if the incoming coach is replacing a total hack.
It's frustrating as hell as a fan to admit it may take a few years - but more often than not it's worth it.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:13 pm to redbird4state
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Mississippi State fan
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realistic expectations
Getting lectures by MSU about realistic expectations. Now this is funny
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:17 pm to MSHawg1
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Getting lectures by MSU about realistic expectations. Now this is funny
We stuck with a coach for nine years who never won a division championship.
I'd say we have realistic expectations.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:19 pm to MSHawg1
Where is the humor in that, baw?
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:21 pm to redbird4state
The problem is he’ll probably be looking for that next job while the iron is hot so to speak. Kentucky has a ceiling that isn’t very high.
I’ll also add we really don’t know how good they are yet. They were in a dogfight at home with an 0-3 Central Michigan team that got THROTTLED by hapless Kansas 1 week later. Florida might not make a bowl this year with Georgia, USC, LSU, MSU, Vandy and Missouri looming.
I’ll also add we really don’t know how good they are yet. They were in a dogfight at home with an 0-3 Central Michigan team that got THROTTLED by hapless Kansas 1 week later. Florida might not make a bowl this year with Georgia, USC, LSU, MSU, Vandy and Missouri looming.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:37 pm to redbird4state
Keeping Stoops this long was a good move.
I understood why Barnhart got him in the first place: Ohio. Fertile territory, and has been paying in spades.
Team is much better than they were. We don't ask for much, just respectability
I understood why Barnhart got him in the first place: Ohio. Fertile territory, and has been paying in spades.
Team is much better than they were. We don't ask for much, just respectability
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:45 pm to redbird4state
Arky's program is shite this year. UK's program was far lower than that when Stoops was hired. It's been a long climb back to the middle of the SEC. Hopefully Stoops will stay around for a while. UK will certainly make anybody that wants to lure him away pay a premium price.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
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They were in a dogfight at home with an 0-3 Central Michigan team that got THROTTLED by hapless Kansas 1 week later.
The same hapless Kansas that put up 55 against Rutgers yesterday? Do you even football?
The CMU game was our opener and the Chips got 13 points off turnovers. Terry Wilson had two of those dropped balls. Cats rolled in the second half.
Dogfight?
No. You didn't watch the game so you're just spouting feces.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 4:56 pm to redbird4state
Yeah because losing the past two games and not being happy about it is being unrealistic. Thinking you may win 4 at the beginning of the season is unfrickingreasonable. Geez we are so crazy.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 5:00 pm to redbird4state
I want to feel like this post is a dig, but maybe not. I'll play along like it isn't.
It's no secret that UK's football history is overall below average with some high points and the greatest coach in the history of the game (till Saban came along) running the program for several years of success, followed by a long time of wondering in the wilderness. Spotty success followed, but nothing consistent.
I liked the Stoops hire when it occurred and he has been given plenty of time to produce, and we are now seeing the fruits of that. The entire team has quality depth at most all positions, and the starters are SEC caliber players. It seems like 4 years is a terribly long time to start seeing some success, but Stoops is also a first time head coach, so a learning curve for everyone.
Where can we go? Hard to tell. Georgia looks to be growing into a Bama challenger, so I guess being behind them would be a good place to be, and that is where we find ourselves after 3 weeks of the season (or tied with them if you consider 1-0 an accomplishment). I think overall this is the best UK can hope for in football. With where we are now, I think UK can be a challenger for the forseeable future. The talent is there, and the investment has been made. I hope Stoops can get us to 9+ wins this year and forward.
It's no secret that UK's football history is overall below average with some high points and the greatest coach in the history of the game (till Saban came along) running the program for several years of success, followed by a long time of wondering in the wilderness. Spotty success followed, but nothing consistent.
I liked the Stoops hire when it occurred and he has been given plenty of time to produce, and we are now seeing the fruits of that. The entire team has quality depth at most all positions, and the starters are SEC caliber players. It seems like 4 years is a terribly long time to start seeing some success, but Stoops is also a first time head coach, so a learning curve for everyone.
Where can we go? Hard to tell. Georgia looks to be growing into a Bama challenger, so I guess being behind them would be a good place to be, and that is where we find ourselves after 3 weeks of the season (or tied with them if you consider 1-0 an accomplishment). I think overall this is the best UK can hope for in football. With where we are now, I think UK can be a challenger for the forseeable future. The talent is there, and the investment has been made. I hope Stoops can get us to 9+ wins this year and forward.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 5:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The reality was, for anyone who wasn’t one of those basketball-only mouth breathers, that everybody knew you can’t turn around a football program in a short time. It takes multiple recruiting classes to come to fruition. This is probably the first year since he’s been at UK we’ve had legitimate depth. Kudos to Barnhart for having that patience. Like you said, he’s frustrating at times. But he’s also a first time HC in a tough league on a learning curve.
That recruiting room at Kroger Field is paying off.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 5:08 pm to MSHawg1
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Getting lectures by MSU about realistic expectations. Now this is funny
dumbass
Posted on 9/16/18 at 6:18 pm to MasCervezas
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dumbass
No what's dumb is thinking you're going to own everyone except Bama
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:13 pm to redbird4state
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Have Mark's results to date been outstanding? No.
Have there been times where things looked pessimistic? Yes.
Have Mark's results improved steadily over the years, though? YES.
You interviewing yourself was informative and entertaining.
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:20 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
OP your screen name is really puzzling. In one sense I like Miss State fans generally, red birds though are our in state rival as you should remember from the bowl game. I'm teetering between well that's nice of you to say and triggrred
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 9/16/18 at 7:23 pm to MSHawg1
You made Saturday so hilarious for me.
Thank you.
North Texas just scored again
"Maine". Who cares? That was 15 years and 3 coaches ago. North Texas was yesterday. Arkansas sucks, and you're getting worse each week. Suck it.
Thank you.
North Texas just scored again
"Maine". Who cares? That was 15 years and 3 coaches ago. North Texas was yesterday. Arkansas sucks, and you're getting worse each week. Suck it.
This post was edited on 9/16/18 at 7:24 pm
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