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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Random MsState Fan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:01 pm to
Our defense will rank statistically BETTER THAN LSU this year.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22584 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:01 pm to
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The actual All-SEC team will look completely different.

Yet people will still argue about this list
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Glancing at your projected two-deep this year (same guys right?). There are:
4 RS seniors
1 true senior
1 true junior
1 RS sophomore (basically a junior)

So please, tell me again about how young they were. Over half are seniors



Well, you have guys like Cory Thomas who has been limited in his career by injury. Then you have guys like Montez Sweat, who came from juco, so last year was his first FBS experience. Then you have guys like Simmons, who was a true soph last year. Or Kobe Jones, who was a frosh last year. Or Gerri Green, who was playing out of position. Maybe the better word than "young" was "inexperienced".
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:05 pm to
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Our defense will rank statistically BETTER THAN LSU this year


I doubt it. If you couldn’t last year when LSU was injured and lacked depth, I don’t know how you will this year.
Posted by TouchdownToCauseHell
Member since Apr 2018
568 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:07 pm to
1st team punter- Mizzou
2nd team punter- Scar

Makes sense. They will both get tons of action
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
4446 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Those same people ranked statistically WORSE THAN LSU last year...

Cool. They have “individual” accolades but played average as a “team”.


I don't know, they looked pretty spectacular against LSU.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:16 pm to
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I don't know, they looked pretty spectacular against LSU.


So did Troy.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
5692 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:30 pm to
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Of course those teams have talented front 7s. Who else can tout two returning first team all SEC defensive linemen? Who can tout returning the league's sack leader? Those aren't preseason rankings, they're postseason accolades from last year.

I'll hang up and listen.


lol When MSU played the 2 good teams from those 3 their defense, line included, looked awful. 31-3 and 49-10 ouch
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10485 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:39 pm to
Are these supposed to be talent evaluations based on previous years or are they trying to predict the post-season all-SEC Team?
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Those same people ranked statistically WORSE THAN LSU last year...


MSU allowed fewer yards per carry than LSU last year.

Stop.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59019 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Notable:AU has 9 on the lists, but zero 1st teamers.


Out of curiosity, how do you interpret that? I mean, what does that mean, to you?
Posted by VU fan 43
Virginia
Member since May 2014
261 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:43 pm to
Don’t feel so bad, we didn’t have anyone on any of the 3 teams.

You are right though, the post-season will look very different.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:45 pm to
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MSU allowed fewer yards per carry than LSU last year.

Stop.



LINK

No you stop.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59019 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 1:59 pm to
In fairness, they look pretty even to me. 3 yards per game difference, and real close in YPC against. MState gave up 2 more TD on the ground, but that is pretty close, too.

You guys both have an argument, but they are razor think arguments.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:09 pm to
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In fairness, they look pretty even to me. 3 yards per game difference, and real close in YPC against. MState gave up 2 more TD on the ground, but that is pretty close, too.

You guys both have an argument, but they are razor think arguments.


Which is my point. LSU's D wasnt that good.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:12 pm to
From the link you provided:

LSU: Average 3.85 yds/carry
MSU: Average 3.82 yds/carry

How short was the bus you rode to school in?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:16 pm to
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From the link you provided:

LSU: Average 3.85 yds/carry
MSU: Average 3.82 yds/carry

How short was the bus you rode to school in?


Rush D is ranked by rush yards given up per game.

Further, MSU gave up more rushing TD's.

Grats on those 1st team Dlinemen that

A) Beat LSU
B) Still Finished behind LSU
C) Had a worse Rush D than LSU

But yea, congrats on .03 ypc better with all your "depth" and "experience".
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:32 pm to
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But yea, congrats on .03 ypc better with all your "depth" and "experience".



Uh, the depth and experience is this year, not last year. Last year was the 'inexperience'. And they still held opponents to fewer yds/carry than LSU. Try to keep up. We've got all the same guys coming back; they will be stronger and more experienced. And we're adding two monsters.

I understand y'all are scared. That's okay.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25999 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:38 pm to
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Rivers- 4 star JUCO transfer that had to sit out last year; experts say he's better than Sweat.


Do you have a link for that expert?

Or are you the expert?

Rivers is good. But he is no way in hell comparable to Sweat.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 2:45 pm to
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Do you have a link for that expert?


The 'expert' that said it is Marcus Spears. Maybe you've heard of him. (spare me the "Spears doesn't know anything about lineman" rant)

Whether he's right or not hell, I don't know.

But we aren't just making stuff up.
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