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re: Would LSU fans take Les Miles right now for this season?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:28 am to Scoob
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:28 am to Scoob
Yes narcisse is a dual threat, but that was a carry over from Miles.
You didn't even list the QB's that LSU is targeting right now. Borrow is tall strong arm QB, more of a pro-style that isn't a statue like Mett. The guy from Louisiana that recently committed to LSU fits in that same mold.
Yes I'm saying that O seems to have defined the QB he wants. Will it work? I don't know.
You didn't even list the QB's that LSU is targeting right now. Borrow is tall strong arm QB, more of a pro-style that isn't a statue like Mett. The guy from Louisiana that recently committed to LSU fits in that same mold.
Yes I'm saying that O seems to have defined the QB he wants. Will it work? I don't know.
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:31 am to CNB
quote:I honestly dont think anything changes at all for this one season between les and o
So you’d rather be led by O this year than Miles and find a better option after the year?
Someone tell me how O is a better option than Miles this year
Les is better than O because he is better at running a program. A 1 season scenario like this where everything is already set is a wash
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:43 am to CockyTime
NO
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:44 am to CockyTime
Louisiana State fans are weird.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:47 am to CockyTime
No. It was time for him to go...just wasn't time to hire O!!!
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:13 am to civiltiger07
quote:I don't care about targeted recruits or commitments, because that means nothing. You need a guy to fit into a system. We haven't settled into a system yet, unless you take the Ensminger situation as "we've decided we will go with a vanilla 70's pro style" (which it likely will be).
Yes narcisse is a dual threat, but that was a carry over from Miles.
You didn't even list the QB's that LSU is targeting right now. Borrow is tall strong arm QB, more of a pro-style that isn't a statue like Mett. The guy from Louisiana that recently committed to LSU fits in that same mold.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:30 am to Scoob
Doesn’t the targeted recruits and commitments show the direction the coaching staff wants to go? Seems like that is what you should be worried about in this discussion.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:31 am to CockyTime
Nope
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:43 am to CockyTime
No like asking if you want Brad Scott back
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:49 am to GatorBait24
I an not saying Les' early teams weren't tough in the trenches, but there was a precipitous decline in LSU's line play after 2012.
More importantly, LSU had no line depth after 2012. I am saying Les recruited depth in the wrong positions.
More importantly, LSU had no line depth after 2012. I am saying Les recruited depth in the wrong positions.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:54 am to EXPLAYER
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No like asking if you want Brad Scott back
Lmao this dude just compared Les to Brad fricking Scott
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:04 pm to CockyTime
Would the OP take Miles? No. Would the OP take O? No.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:15 pm to CNB
quote:The only thing those two have in common is that they will never be hired as a head coach at a D1 school again.
Lmao this dude just compared Les to Brad fricking Scott
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:22 pm to CockyTime
Les Miles should just wait until Orgeron is fired and then come to the Interview dressed in blackface.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:24 pm to SabinBear
I suspect that Les was sad but relieved to get out of there. The environment had turned poisonous and it wasnt going to get better. Reminded me of Tuberville in his last season at Auburn.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:30 pm to Pavoloco83
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I suspect that Les was sad but relieved to get out of there. The environment had turned poisonous and it wasnt going to get better. Reminded me of Tuberville in his last season at Auburn.
He brought it upon himself by being hard headed.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:32 pm to hogNsinceReagan
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Les Miles should just wait until Orgeron is fired and then come to the Interview dressed in blackface.
Or he should enjoy his wonderful retirement.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:35 pm to civiltiger07
quote:No, the offensive scheme is what I'd be more interested in. You can put the next Peyton Manning into a scheme built around the ability of the QB to occasionally run the option, and it would be a disaster. You can put Tebow or Cam Newton into a straight prostyle, and again, not pretty.
Doesn’t the targeted recruits and commitments show the direction the coaching staff wants to go? Seems like that is what you should be worried about in this discussion.
We're recruiting currently to Ensminger's as-yet-unknown scheme. His history suggests a classic prostyle. His recent success was running Cameron's prostyle (which BTW we wanted gone).
Ensminger is 60 yrs old and has already previously stated he didn't want to be the OC. That doesn't suggest a long tenure, and then we'd be looking at different systems again.
It's a mixed bag; great dropback guys are rare, but good/competent ones are pretty common. They have higher NFL potential than mobile guys, because that's all the NFL runs due to injury potential.
If the surrounding talent is there, a good dropback guy can win you a title. The issue is that the surrounding talent doesn't equal Alabama's, so until/unless we catch the Tide across the board in talent, taking a dropback guy won't win titles at LSU.
A great dual-threat can make up for other talent deficiencies, and they're not as rare as great prostyle guys. They can also win you a title in college. A merely decent one won't be as good as a decent prostyle, but gives you a puncher's chance against better teams.
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TL, DR version:
in order of chance of success:
1 Great DT
2 Great prostyle
3 decent prostyle (vs equal talent)
4 decent DT (not as consistent against equal teams, but gives you a small but definite chance against superior teams, if he gets hot)
The decent prostyle guy will be a better passer in general than the decent dual threat, but the mobility always affects the opposing D. If you can get a 'great' QB, they can pass great, regardless of mobility, and so the DT trumps the prostyle statue guy.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:03 pm to CNB
Lol, hell no. His archaic offense would have us at 3 to 4 wins this year.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:52 pm to CockyTime
I still have no idea why that firing happened. None.
They say he had lost it. He won at the same or higher rate at any coach in their history. It's crazy but it's like they turned on him after Saban went to Bama but why??
This is why they are about see dark days. They don't know it, won't admit it but LSU football is about to be a 5-7 win team. 7 being the high end. They say it's a championship team talent wise. It's not. It's got holes all over the place. Then the coach. Him over miles??? Give me a break. O is grasping desperately. This burrow thing was a desperation move.
They say he had lost it. He won at the same or higher rate at any coach in their history. It's crazy but it's like they turned on him after Saban went to Bama but why??
This is why they are about see dark days. They don't know it, won't admit it but LSU football is about to be a 5-7 win team. 7 being the high end. They say it's a championship team talent wise. It's not. It's got holes all over the place. Then the coach. Him over miles??? Give me a break. O is grasping desperately. This burrow thing was a desperation move.
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