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Is Dan Mullen really a top tier coach in the SEC?
Posted on 6/3/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 6/3/18 at 11:59 am
During his time at Mississippi St he finished with 69 total wins. Which was 9th in the conference. That's not terrible. But let's dive a little deeper into who he was beating.
37 of those wins were against either FCS opponents or teams that finished with 5 wins or less.
On the flip side, he only has 3 wins over teams that finished the season with 10 wins or more. And that was against the following teams: Rice, Bowling Green, and Middle Tennessee. Only Kentucky and Vanderbilt have fewer in the SEC.
He does have 7 wins over ranked teams. Which is the same amount as Tennessee, but again, there are only two teams in the SEC with less during that span; Kentucky and Vanderbilt.
If we break it down even further, he only has 3 wins over teams that FINISHED the season ranked in the AP Top 25 (once again, Vanderbilt and Kentucky are the only teams with less). 9 of the 14 SEC schools have 11 or more since 2009.
Did Florida just buy $6,000,000 worth of snake oil per year for the next 6 years?
37 of those wins were against either FCS opponents or teams that finished with 5 wins or less.
On the flip side, he only has 3 wins over teams that finished the season with 10 wins or more. And that was against the following teams: Rice, Bowling Green, and Middle Tennessee. Only Kentucky and Vanderbilt have fewer in the SEC.
He does have 7 wins over ranked teams. Which is the same amount as Tennessee, but again, there are only two teams in the SEC with less during that span; Kentucky and Vanderbilt.
If we break it down even further, he only has 3 wins over teams that FINISHED the season ranked in the AP Top 25 (once again, Vanderbilt and Kentucky are the only teams with less). 9 of the 14 SEC schools have 11 or more since 2009.
Did Florida just buy $6,000,000 worth of snake oil per year for the next 6 years?
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 12:16 pm
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:01 pm to Sean Bean
A twofer. Nice job, Sean Bean.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:02 pm to Sean Bean
They did
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:02 pm to Sean Bean
Mullen sucks.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:03 pm to Sean Bean
I made this argument to State last year. The we’re angry AF. I have a feeling their tunes have changed.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:07 pm to Sean Bean
Again, lateral move for Mullen, upgrade for MSU with Joe Mo
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:15 pm to Sean Bean
Remains to be seen.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:29 pm to Sean Bean
I'd like every poster to go on record about how terrible a coach Merlen is, so we can start calling for some HCs to get canned next year.
No one should be judged on their coaching prowise by a stint at a school in Mississippi. Jury is still out IMO, but he was a hell of an OC.
No one should be judged on their coaching prowise by a stint at a school in Mississippi. Jury is still out IMO, but he was a hell of an OC.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:35 pm to Sean Bean
He’s average, a below average recruiter and probably a little above average at x’s and o’s. Probably good enough for 8-10 wins a year but I doubt we win a championship. It’s frustrating but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:42 pm to Sean Bean
Name another coach that MSU could hire that would do better. MSU has many obstacles to overcome to win. Mullen overcame many of them.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:56 pm to Sean Bean
We will find out won’t we
Posted on 6/3/18 at 12:59 pm to Sean Bean
He should fit in better than Muschamp. If he can recruit well against UM and FSU he may do well.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:01 pm to Sean Bean
Mullen’s biggest weakness is his loyalty to his best buds Hevesy and Gonzo. Neither of them recruit well and they’re just average coaches. If he hired a real O-line coach that could recruit and a solid wr coach he could be elite. But there have been horror stories on how bad of a recruiter Hev is and Mullen doesn’t do anything about it.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:41 pm to Sean Bean
Dan could win championships at the D2 level
Posted on 6/3/18 at 1:53 pm to Sean Bean
No. He rigged the system at State making sure he had 4 auto OOC wins every year, then gained a reputation as a program builder by getting State to bowl games by only having 2 win two SEC games.
Mullen is a fraud.
Mullen is a fraud.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:12 pm to Sean Bean
Mullen will win at Florida, but their fans are gonna have to understand his recruiting. Many blue chip types may not get the warm and fuzzies when he tells them they're gonna have to work their asses off to compete.
To his credit, he judges player ability, on how they perform at camp, not on stars. This is where the "Mullen's Diamonds" saying came from.
To his credit, he judges player ability, on how they perform at camp, not on stars. This is where the "Mullen's Diamonds" saying came from.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:25 pm to Sean Bean
I never understood the hype. He is already being out recruited like crazy by Taggart. Have fun gators
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:32 pm to Sean Bean
quote:
Did Florida just buy $6,000,000 worth of snake oil per year for the next 6 years?
Yes. And we gave him $12M guaranteed in his buyout
Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:45 pm to Sean Bean
Mullen did a good job while at state, we won some big games and we were competitive. Florida fans be prepared for extremely frustrating play calling in critical situations and underwhelming recruiting.
Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:06 pm to Sean Bean
Even diving deeper into his numbers he did it at fricking MSU. I think he has a decent eye for talent, and can coach players up, but he has a lot to prove to be considered an elite coach. Just because he did it at hell hole college like MSU doesn't put him in elite status.
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