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re: Auburn's 2018 record (predictions)

Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:33 am to
So the outcome of the games were dependent of which division they represented ? They played each other, so it is hard to claim the results would be different otherwise. UA could even argue that they were the visiting team in the Championship Game. Now replace KY, Vandy, Mizzu, SC, TN, with LSU, A&M, Ole Miss and even Ark and see if they would have survived the West with just those two loses to AU and UA. Maybe UGA would have been the first three loss team in the Playoff.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:34 am to
This is probably the wrong thread to say it, but I would like to remind everyone with a functioning brain, that auburn, does in-fact... suck
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:37 am to
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All I know is, my UGA buddies in the bricks and mortar world didn't breathe a sigh of relief until that final TD. If that's the emotional equivalent of an arse-kicking, then y'all haven't kicked enough teams' asses, lol...


Maybe. But Auburn posters ran around acting like they dominated Alabama in the Iron Bowl and that game was much, much closer than ours was.

Posted by GlossuRabban
West Cobb
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:38 am to
26-14
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:38 am to
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Magic is just an excuse for getting your arse whipped


Auburn played great football that day and Georgia did not. There isn't much more to it than that. It wasn't "magic", it was execution.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33091 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:41 am to
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with LSU, A&M, Ole Miss and even Ark a


Is this supposed to make your point? Because it doesn’t do a good job.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:41 am to
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Auburn played great football that day and Georgia did not. There isn't much more to it than that. It wasn't "magic", it was execution.


Correct...silly things like "magic" are irrelevant, but it does point to the fact that AU clearly plays MUCH better at home. AU went 7-0 last year in JH with some major victories over elite teams; they went 3-4 away from JHS including 2 losses to teams they had no business losing to and 1 beatdown to a team they had already beaten earlier at home.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:48 am to
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So the outcome of the games were dependent of which division they represented ?

Read again. I clearly said that we had our division sewed up when we faced Auburn. Don't you think there is a difference in the way a team typically plays when somethign is on the line and when something is not?

I also said, that Alabama did not show any tendancy to want to pull Jalen Hurts from a game during the regular season. That would lead us to believe that he would have remaned in the game had we been playing Alabama during the regular season and we might have beaten them. ****I also admitted that this was only speculation on my part and it could not be proven...much like your assertion that Georgia would not have made the SECCG had we been playing in the west****

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UA could even argue that the were the visiting team in the Championship Game.

And if we had played them i the regular season they might have been the visiting team, so how would that change anything?

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Now replace KY, Vandy, Mizzu, SC, TN, with LSU, A&M, Ole Miss and even Ark and see if they would have survived the West with just those two loses to AU and UA. Maybe UGA would have been the first three loss team in the Playoff.

Dude. The two divisions were not that far apart. True the West was tougher, but the west had 5 teams that finished with a record better than .500 and the east had 4. Get past Alabama and the divisions were not that lopsided. Yes. The West was better, but you guys seriously want to say the SEC Champions would not have made it out of the west division when we beat the west division champions? If you believe than, then the west division champions should beaten us and removed all doubt. Trouble with that is we dominated the west division champions by 21 points.

We had the #6 rated schedule in the country, so it is not like we had and easy schedule.

Sagarin Strength of Schedule rankings
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 9:54 am
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:51 am to
W - Washington / ATL
W - Alabama State
W - LSU
W - Arkansas
W - Southern Miss
W - at Mississippi State
W - Tennessee
W - at Ole Miss

-bye week- majority of fans are okay with Gus and supports his contract

W - Texas A&M
L - at Georgia
W - Liberty
L - at Alabama

- everyone hates Gus and is pissed about his contract and the buyout

L - Cap 1 Bowl vs some Big 10 team

- everyone is bitching for Gus to be fired
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:03 am to
quote:

quote:
with LSU, A&M, Ole Miss and even Ark a


Is this supposed to make your point? Because it doesn’t do a good job.



What it shows is the cumulative effect of an SECW schedule, and how it would cause more injuries and force the team to open the playbook. UGA schedule was set up perfectly for a team whose starting QB gets injured in the first game and they have to turn to a FR. With last years schedule they could let Fromm make safe passes and depend on their running game. How many losses could they have accumulated with that strategy with consecutive games against A&M, LSU, Ark and AL and AU ? Even the MSU would have had its effect on that gauntlet of a schedule. One thing we do know is that they lost to a least two SECW team and more than likely they would have been out of the SECCG.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25883 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:07 am to
quote:

W - Washington / ATL
W - Alabama State
W - LSU
W - Arkansas
W - Southern Miss
W - at Mississippi State
W - Tennessee
W - at Ole Miss

-bye week- majority of fans are okay with Gus and supports his contract

W - Texas A&M
L - at Georgia
W - Liberty
L - at Alabama

- everyone hates Gus and is pissed about his contract and the buyout

L - Cap 1 Bowl vs some Big 10 team

- everyone is bitching for Gus to be fired


I think 10-2 gives Gus a good opportunity to recruit. He is close. He has a long term contract. He just needs a few 5 stars and high 4 stars to walk in and get the program to that next level.

But the concern and reason for the question was if the fan base will make things so sour publicly to hurt that sales pitch. The Tennessee fan base shows that the tail can wag the dog. Is there a chance of that in Auburn?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:10 am to
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The West was better, but you guys seriously want to say the SEC Champions would not have made it out of the west division when we beat the west division champions? If you believe than, then the west division champions should beaten us and removed all doubt. Trouble with that is we dominated the west division champions by 21 points.



After getting their arse whipped by the same team two weeks earlier. Then AU plays a West team and suffers some key injuries (Johnson, Tre Williams and Holland), while UGA plays the run happy time consuming mighty GT.

You had the #6 schedule because you were in the Playoff and the SECCG. Those two game will boost any computer ranking. What did it look like after the GT Game ?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:13 am to
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What it shows is the cumulative effect of an SECW schedule, and how it would cause more injuries and force the team to open the playbook.


Good lord,please stop.Go ahead and look at how many players were injured for both UT and UF and get back to
me.

Here ya go
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33091 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:17 am to
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cumulative effect of an SECW schedule


By listing teams that weren’t anything special? That doesn’t prove what you think it proves.

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UGA schedule was set up perfectly for a team whose starting QB gets injure


Hardly. First start for the new qb was at Notre Dame and then he had to soon start against one of those rugged west teams.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25888 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:18 am to
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Correct...silly things like "magic" are irrelevant, but it does point to the fact that AU clearly plays MUCH better at home. AU went 7-0 last year in JH with some major victories over elite teams; they went 3-4 away from JHS including 2 losses to teams they had no business losing to and 1 beatdown to a team they had already beaten earlier at home.

It seems like it's been that way throughout Malzahn's tenure. Playing Auburn in Auburn is just a totally different animal, for whatever reason.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33091 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:22 am to
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Then AU plays a West team and suffers some key injuries (Johnson, Tre Williams and Holland),


Pretty sure at least one of these guys got hurt playing a scrub team before Bama and our starting qb got hurt vs a scrub team. We even had a guy or two w get hurt vs tech. Injuries are pretty random.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:24 am to
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It seems like it's been that way throughout Malzahn's tenure


It better be if your road record vs your biggest rivals
is 0-8.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Good lord,please stop.Go ahead and look at how many players were injured for both UT and UF and get back to
me.


True, but the next week they have to play a Mizzu UT, Vandy or UK, instead of LSU, A&M AU or AL. Big difference.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:29 am to
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It seems like it's been that way throughout Malzahn's tenure. Playing Auburn in Auburn is just a totally different animal, for whatever reason.


Could it be the two best teams in the Gus Era were the 2013 and 2017 teams (home years) ?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25888 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:32 am to
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Could it be the two best teams in the Gus Era were the 2013 and 2017 teams (home years) ?

Partly, sure, but it's even noticeable within a season. Auburn away from home last year wasn't particularly good. At home, they were fierce.
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