Is Dabo a good coach or is he like Gus Malzhan?

It took Watson to finally get over the hump, but Clemson has been consistently good the last several years.

He was back in the playoff without that player so....

Also, your "or is he like" coach was 1 game from the playoff as well.

Dabo is a snake oil salesman. He lucked into winning the ACC in 2016 because of a mistake by the refs, letting them snap the ball with 0 on the clock against UNC in a very competitive game.

They're paying players up there with dirty money from NewSpring church. Dabo is a Pharisee of the worst kind. Take it to the bank.

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like Gus did with Cam?

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Don't forget about that once in a generation CB he had playing QB

Dabo is as good of a recruiter as there is. He is also smart enough to surround himself with some of the best coordinators money can buy (Morris, Venables and now Scott) and not get in their way. His antics and cliches make him come off as a cornball, but Clemson is recruiting on the same level as UGA and Alabama. I don’t think he leaves Clemson though.

Clemson has been pretty good before and after Watson. They needed Watson to get over the championship hump but he still has them light years better than before he arrived.

No thoughts or comments on the Newspring thing.

But if there is money changing hands to steer recruits to Clemson, there are a whole lotta other programs in the Southeast (and elsewhere) doing the same thing.

Come on. This is all over the place.

As for Dabo? I neither dislike nor like him. Which come to think of it, is my attitude towards Clemson.

But what he does works. He closes the deal with recruits, relentlessly pushes the brand (Clemson), grabs the mike from sideline reporters (he ain't a shy interview), and cheerfully does things that sap the energy of most wiz-kid coordinators promoted to head coach.

And those things are actually the most important things head coaches do now.

As long as he has strong coordinators (and he's shown he is ruthless about showing guys who can't get it done the door), he will continue to be successful.

The players are there for them. South Carolina (we aren't Louisiana, Georgia, or Florida, but we do put them out), good access to Georgia, North Carolina, and Florida, etc.

What he has going will continue till he runs out of steam, or they get the wrong coordinator when some guy moves on (like Venables to K-State, which I expect to happen in the next year or so), then are too stubborn to replace him.

And he's making beaucoup money, his family seems happy enough. He'd be a fool to leave that, even if "Mama" called.

Only thing I see stopping them from staying where they are is if "The message goes stale." This may sound wonky, but it happens all the time. Seems like there is a 10 year thing, then it starts to slide.

Dabo hasn't shown any signs of it though. If anything he is starting to look like a long-haul coach, like Osborne or Snyder, able to stay at one job for decades and be consistently good.

Didnt Gus win the SEC and go to the national title game with a defensive back for a QB?

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once in a generation player

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so how many of those have there been this generation?

Clemson lost 75% of their Offense from last year and made it back to the Playoffs...

And what has Gus done except soak Auburn for more money?