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Chip Kelly has been cleared to go to the SEC...and UF
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:33 am
Uh oh.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:35 am to Spaceman Spiff
He isn't a great recruiter and physical, power football teams always beat his Oregon teams
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:42 am to Spaceman Spiff
The stuff he does isn't as revolutionary as it was 10 years ago.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:50 am to VADawg
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isn't a great recruiter
Yea,we'll see how he does on the recruiting trail...he had a huge advantage with his Oregon facilities out west not so much whem most big SEC schools all have huge investments on that area.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:51 am to Spaceman Spiff
How many times did Chip Kelly win the NC while at Oregon?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:52 am to Spaceman Spiff
His gimmicky stuff worked against some really bad Pac 12 teams. When they played anyone with talent they struggled.
His offenses were built to create huge mismatches. It's going to be hard to do that in the SEC when there is so much talent and speed on defenses pretty much everywhere now.
His offenses were built to create huge mismatches. It's going to be hard to do that in the SEC when there is so much talent and speed on defenses pretty much everywhere now.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:53 am to Spaceman Spiff
Chip Kelly's stuff isn't that innovative anymore.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 11:55 am to Spaceman Spiff
Chip Kelly is a total jerk who hates players and has trouble getting along. I wanted better for Florida so that we would get more credit for the win.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:16 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
Yep, he's meh now days.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 12:21 pm to Whiznot
We are recruiting at a level such that our success will not be dependent on who our rivals hire.
Florida will be a shorter rebuild than Tennessee, but it is still a rebuild. Chip has been out of college for a long time and has much to prove in terms of elite recruiting , imo.
At the end of the day, Florida and Tennessee are good programs and will hire good coaches. Butch and shark boy were aberrations.
Florida will be a shorter rebuild than Tennessee, but it is still a rebuild. Chip has been out of college for a long time and has much to prove in terms of elite recruiting , imo.
At the end of the day, Florida and Tennessee are good programs and will hire good coaches. Butch and shark boy were aberrations.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:36 pm to NCDawg52
Kelly will turn Florida around. He runs his system much better than anyone else. If he hires some good recruiters, Florida will be a very good-great team soon
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:39 pm to dawg4lyfe
I think UF will get a short-term boost from him as head coach because of his name and history. Being in the NFL for a bit will help, as well, but once he re-establishes himself in college football, he'll have to produce actual results, or else all that equity he built up for himself will disappear.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:40 pm to dawg4lyfe
They'll be good, but you have to expect that with UF. He's nothing UGA can't hang with, though.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:49 pm to Spaceman Spiff
I'm quite sure that extreme Northeast accent of his will go over real well on the recruiting trail in south Georgia.
Enter the Bainbridge native.
Enter the Bainbridge native.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:53 pm to Spaceman Spiff
We need more better coaches in the SEC. I welcome the competition. If Kirby keeps recruiting the way he has so far, we should be fine vs Florida/Chip Kelly and anyone else.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:03 pm to Spaceman Spiff
What do you mean by cleared?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:13 pm to Spaceman Spiff
He's nothing to wet out pants over but anyone downplaying it seems a bit silly. They've had 2 straight duds in muschamp and mcelwain and I'm quite confident that kelly is a better coach than either. And despite kelly not winnign it all at oregon, he's going to be in a more fertile recruiting area by an absolute longshot so he shouldn't have to worry about that.
UF has had good to excellent defenses for about the last 6-7 years now, what's held them back has been woeful, absolutely horrific offenses. That will likely get corrected with kelly.
UF has had good to excellent defenses for about the last 6-7 years now, what's held them back has been woeful, absolutely horrific offenses. That will likely get corrected with kelly.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:15 pm to Crowknowsbest
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They'll be good, but you have to expect that with UF. He's nothing UGA can't hang with, though.
This... and as much as I enjoy dumpster fire Gainesville and Knoxville... they are dramatically impacting the perception of our division. Without Notre Dame on the schedule, our undefeated season prior to last week likely would have been seen about on par or worse than Wisconsin. We won't likely know for a while, but if there is ever a chance for 2 teams from the same conference to make it into the CFP, then having a less shitty division would be good.
Ultimately, he was 1-2 against the SEC in his career at Oregon - and while both of the losses did come from the eventual SEC champion, his lone win came against a hapless UT coached by Derek Dooley... not much of a sample size there.
The best non-SEC teams (but built similarly on the LOS) we have to compare him against are probably Wisconsin and Ohio State. 1-1 there as well.
He's a great coach, but I'm not sure he is anything to be scared of either. Innovative in 2012 is not the same thing as innovative in 2018. The upside, is that in the state of Florida, he'll have access to more or less a conveyor belt of the types of skill player recruits that he had to seek out across the country while he was at Oregon. It will make recruiting for him a little easier... the question is how many guys on the LOS are going to sign up for his style of play. I 100% agree with Kirby when he says this is a LOS league. For all of Gus' innovation, he's figured it out as well. They are stout on the D-line and their O-line may have been maligned earlier this season, but it's a bunch of grown seniors and juniors holding it down right now.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:48 pm to Spaceman Spiff
This worries me. Any Dawg fan who claims they aren't worried by this hire are simply talking themselves out of it. It's a home run hire.
Do the research. Every time Florida has hired a proven winning head coach (especially who was an elite offensive X's and O's guy), they've turned into an elite program quickly.
Hopefully Kirby and Tucker can handle it, because Chip will challenge them more than they've been challenged from a scheme standpoint.
Do the research. Every time Florida has hired a proven winning head coach (especially who was an elite offensive X's and O's guy), they've turned into an elite program quickly.
Hopefully Kirby and Tucker can handle it, because Chip will challenge them more than they've been challenged from a scheme standpoint.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 2:58 pm to BranchDawg
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Any Dawg fan who claims they aren't worried by this hire are simply talking themselves out of it. It's a home run hire.
These two things aren't mutually exclusive. It's a very good hire for them... it also shouldn't necessarily "worry" you. Do we think that Chip is going to come in and recruit well there? I'd expect an immediate bump, but he's going to have to *win* in order to retain his shine, no different than any other coach. He's never recruited the LOS particularly well... he doesn't *like* recruiting to begin with... oh, and he left Oregon on probation and got a show cause...
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