re: Corso's saying UT and Oklahoma leaving Big 12 in next 5 years most likely 4 SEC

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They out recruited all Texas schools talent for talent by a wide margin this year.

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2017 Top 50 Texas Players Signed:

A&M - 7
Oklahoma - 6
t.u. - 6
TCU - 4
Texas Tech - 1

Top 100:

A&M - 12
t.u. - 10
Oklahoma - 8
TCU - 7
Baylor - 6
Texas Tech - 4
Texas State - 2

I'm for ECU too. We get the state and they love football. After 20 years of TV money they would catch up facility wise.

Texas? No thanks. We don't need them. Oklahoma? What do they bring? They're like West Virginia to me, very small population. WV only has 1.8 million people

Let's see the numbers for total 5/4 stars from Texas.

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So where does Boren and OU get this overinflated opinion of their academics?

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Because the B1G whispers that crap in their ears. B12 was a conference but look what happened when they whispered into Nebraska's ear. Nebraska fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Even after they got kicked out of the AAU (it was the B1G votes that got them booted) they still think they are equal. Big 12 has 7 AAU schools and just 3 a few years later. You have to be deluded to believe the B1G is there to help you,

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So where does Boren and OU get this overinflated opinion of their academics?

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They are very proud of their number of National Merit Scholar freshman enrolled students, which is usually near or at the top in the country.

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I'm not sure the University of Texas even recruits National Merit Scholars any longer, but I don't think that's a slight to the National Merit Scholar program, just the admissions constraints placed on the University of Texas by the state legislature. That part is purely political and I won't get into it.

There is no doubt that Oklahoma has a huge white-trash fandom, but they do have some money.

I agree their academic profile is overrated.

They were the ones who went belly-up in the 30s and had to move to California (the Dust Bowl, the Grapes of Wrath, etc.) -- which by the way I think confirms Oklahoma's destiny as a California-linked school) -- while Texans struck oil and had money running out of its ears.

That's part of the rivalry (the disparity, the grudge, an inferiority complex takes the hate up a notch from the perceived lesser team). It's psychology, dude.

David Boren, their president, is a politician (a former Gov. and U.S. Senator) who has major connections (he's a Clinton confidante, I think). He's just trying to raise money by blowing smoke. They are trying to attract Texas students who are no longer able to get into certain state schools).

Texas has longed to be linked with Berkeley and Stanford at least since the 1970s. An inferiority complex creeping up from the University of Texas blowhard, wild-spending alumni desiring such link, or liberal academicians who naturally look down on what they perceive (for right or for wrong) inferior institutions?

The latter (UT professors who got their degrees from Berkeley, Stanford, MIT, Harvard, NYU) are vehemently opposed to an association with the Southeastern Conference and I would venture aren't exactly enamored with the Big 12.

The wild-spending money boosters have different motivations and tilt toward athletics success, whatever that may mean.

It creates a natural tension. This, my friends, is what people mean when they say Texas is a tough job. You have to please politicians, professors and Billy Bob. That is undeniable and only Darrell Royal and Mack Brown have been able to do it. Coach Royal got sick of it eventually. Mack Brown got his head chopped off when he wouldn't go away quietly and refused to believe the old adage, "it's nothing personal, just business."

You said CHAMPIONSHIPS.

The individual in question wanted to broadcast regular season games specifically featuring commits and to use it as an incentive for coaches to push their kids towards Austin. He even named an out of state recruit and said their events were fair game as well.

Not only that, but it then would have opened the door for non-football high school events as well had the NCAA not squashed it.

NBC's sole sports property is not Notre Dame football. In fact, at the time the deal was signed, their prime sports deal was with the NBA.

aTm gave the SEC a market in Texas. I find OU an interesting addition as I think it would actually add to the Texas market. Dallas and Fort Worth are eat up with OU alum and fans. That would further say screw the Horns!

But would the SEC still be bigger than a B1G with Oklahoma and Texas? I think it actually makes the most sense for them to join the PAC12, but I don't think the SEC would really care if they joined that Conference. I do think the SEC would care if they joined the ACC, but it doesn't seem like they'd be a good fit in the ACC. The only B12 team I can see the ACC getting would be WVU.

As far as expansion is concerned, if the SEC decides to expand, other than Texas and Oklahoma the only other schools that would be a good addition to the SEC would be ACC teams, but no ACC school can leave the conference until like 2035, due to the Grant of Rights that was just signed like 2yrs ago. And ND is contractually obligated to the ACC until then also so you can't pull them in.

But I see something like this eventually happening: LINK

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To be fair, Patterson is proof this is not true. Look I feel sorry for you guys hiring him and he did more to wreck Texas than any team in the old B12 did. Dodds probably was retained too long and I blame Brown for diluting the Texas schedule for more wins. If you really are a Texas fan do you really think I am wrong here? I respected DKR for scheduling but Mack Brown scheduled for his own end.

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I'd say Patterson is proof.

They ran that freak out of Austin pretty quick and laced his pocket with millions.

I think of Brown as in diluting the roster, but yes.. Texas hung on waaaay too long there. I remember some A&M guys calling that b4 it even started sliding. I was in denial til year 2 of his spiral downward.

Friends cousin went to work as the asst S&C and had some crazy stories about Brown and his staff.. short of a Baylor or Penn St culture, those 5-7 years under Brown shockingly a pathetic display of narcissism and delusion by Mack Daddy.

Brown makes Hugh freeze look like an amateur when it comes to "creative freedom" in regards to reality.