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Joel Klatt on LSU. Is this true Tigers?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:16 pm
On radio interviews Joel klatt said LSU finished in the ap top 10 just once in the 70s 80s and 90s decades. I didn't feel like gargoyling it, but this seems surprising.
He claimed this stat to make the point that LSU is just an ok job, not a top tier job.
He claimed this stat to make the point that LSU is just an ok job, not a top tier job.
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Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:17 pm to John Maplethorpe
and Klatt would be correct on all counts
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:17 pm to John Maplethorpe
We all know L5U football started in 2000.
What's new?
What's new?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:18 pm to John Maplethorpe
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LSU is just an ok job, not a top tier job.
They are smoking crack if they think Tom Herman picks LSU over Texas, USCw or Notre Dame.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:19 pm to John Maplethorpe
Klatt is dumb, by no measurable metric was he correct. 3 top 10 finishes not 1, and if an all time top 10 program is "just ok" I guess he is pretty picky. Not to mention our talent base and coaching budget (including assistants)
LSU football has 22 top 10 AP finished in 82 years of the AP poll. Good for 27% of the seasons we fielded a team.
70-90s were our "mediocre" stretch though I guess.. Only 3 top 10 finishes, with 3 more all the way down at #11.
70: #7
71: #11
72: #11
73: #13
82: #11
84: #15
85: #20
86: #10
87: #5
88: #19
96: #12
97: #13
LSU football has 22 top 10 AP finished in 82 years of the AP poll. Good for 27% of the seasons we fielded a team.
70-90s were our "mediocre" stretch though I guess.. Only 3 top 10 finishes, with 3 more all the way down at #11.
70: #7
71: #11
72: #11
73: #13
82: #11
84: #15
85: #20
86: #10
87: #5
88: #19
96: #12
97: #13
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 12:21 am
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:19 pm to John Maplethorpe
I mean, does what happened in the 70s and 80s really matter when talking about how good a job is today?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:20 pm to John Maplethorpe
They were a historically mediocre team until Saban arrived, and he got out as soon as he could.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:20 pm to John Maplethorpe
Gargoyling
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:21 pm to John Maplethorpe
Finished top 10 1969-1972. Finished top 10 in 1986-87 as well. Several top 15s too. Everyone knows the 90s were not good so that shouldn't be shocking. Regardless, what LSU was 20+ years ago is irrelevant to how good the job is today. Things change
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:26 pm to BranchDawg
Nothing really
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:27 pm to lsufball19
If winning two national titles in the past 15 years makes us mediocre what exactly does it take to be above average in his opinion?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:27 pm to BranchDawg
Not always. But if all your success in the last half century is tied to the best c.f. coach in 30 years, it tells you something.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:27 pm to John Maplethorpe
I didn't even read your post. Klatt is a dbag and almost always wrong.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:29 pm to John Maplethorpe
Cool. Saban was at Michigan State just as long, did they win 2 conference titles and a national title?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:30 pm to TigerMond84
Not average at all the last 15 years. No doubt. He was talking about place in the modern cfb era overall. Only Ohio state and Bama wouldn't trade the last 15 years with LSU.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:32 pm to John Maplethorpe
I guess it depends on defining what top tier means, does he say? Does he define as top ten, etc? Got a link? Thx
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:32 pm to John Maplethorpe
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But if all your success in the last half century is tied to the best c.f. coach in 30 years, it tells you something.
This board is so uneducated
All time program rankings:
CFN#11
ESPN#9
AP#11
CFBDW#9
tiptop25#11
By decade:
Link
Pre 2000:
LINK
^ only list from CFB inception to 2000
Top 10 AP finishes
34: #8
36: #2
37: #8
46: #8
49: #9
58: #1
59: #3
61: #4
62: #7
64: #7
65:#8
69: #10
70: #7
71: #11 **
72: #11 **
82: #11 **
86: #10
87: #5
01: #7
03: #2
05: #6
06: #3
07: #1
10: #8
11: #2
That's 22 top 10 finishes (not including 11ths obviously) in the 82 years of the AP polls existence, or over 25% of the time we field a team we finish top 10
Finished ranked in the final AP poll 39 times in 82 seasons. Good for 48% of our seasons. Polls only moved to top 25 in the late 80s I believe, varied between ranking top 10 and top 20 before then.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:33 pm to John Maplethorpe
I won't argue we are Bama just curious how he defines it
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:33 pm to John Maplethorpe
Success in the 70s and 80s plays no part in where a head coach wants to go today.
LSU is a better job than Notre Dame
LSU has better resources and more talent at their disposal.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in the 1940s
LSU is a better job than Notre Dame
LSU has better resources and more talent at their disposal.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in the 1940s
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:33 pm to John Maplethorpe
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He claimed this stat to make the point that LSU is just an ok job, not a top tier job.
This isn't the 70's, 80's or 90's.
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