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The Media Conspiracy is Real

Posted on 9/5/16 at 5:52 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14976 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 5:52 pm
I read this article earlier on GBH. Currently watching Finebaum with my dad (for the first time actually). They are talking about it too.

Frick the Journos
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 5:52 pm to
frick them
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 5:53 pm to
We know it

But knowing it doesn't change it


What did Pawwwl have to say about it?
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 5:55 pm
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21640 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:11 pm to
Yeah I heard that guy from Georgia call in and say he was sick and tired of the bias against a&m, as well as just generally being fed up with the longhorn network motivations of ESPN pumping the sip fricks up. I let out a quick lil whoop and gig 'em.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134134 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:19 pm to
The juxtaposition of the headlines is fricking amazing
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7435 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 6:45 pm to
Our game didn't even happen, I guess.

ESPN

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61046 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:03 pm to
HEY GUYS I HAVE A GREAT IDEA!!! LETS GET RID OF THE JOURNALISM DEPARTMENT!!!! THEY DONT HAVE A GOOD ROI, INTERNET IS TAKING OVER, AND ITS JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB LIBS ANYWAYS!!!

Texas A&M admin circa 2001
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:05 pm to
Dang it RC!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:11 pm to
I love A&M, but our University had been nothing if not a series of bumbling gaffes over the last 20 years. From refusing to update facilities and falling WAY behind in the athletics arms race for over a decade to giving coaches huge guaranteed contracts for minimal achievements to vision 20/20 to trying to become a diploma mill to disbanding the journalism department...we as a general rule lack foresight as an institution.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:15 pm to
Roger, we currently LEAD the football facilities arms race, we jumped to the SEC and have dramatically improved our exposure


We have been on the upswing big picture wise, I know you want more and I respect that but to say we've been fricking it up royally is dumb
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 9:19 pm to
quote:


Roger, we currently LEAD the football facilities arms race, we jumped to the SEC and have dramatically improved our exposure


I mean, we kinda lucked into it. If Jameill Showers starts in 2012 and Texas doesn't develop the LHN none of that ever happens.

What our administration is still trying to do to us academically is disturbing. We are actively trying to hit 80k students and double the size of the engineering department. Additionally, we are implementing extensive AA policies to increase diversity at the expense of qualification.
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1613 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 10:01 pm to
Gentlemen, there is no conspiracy. You are behaving like thirteen year old girls.

UT is getting the love because of the story. Embattled coach. Will he survive? Last years game where UT gets throttled. Can they even compete? Then the horns come out very motivated, with an engaged stadium, and play quite well. It's not a David/Goliath story but has those elements, especially when you factor in the saving Charlie angle.

Conversely, the A&M game is more balanced. UCLA higher rated but A&M actually favored by odds makers. Thus, nowhere the drama and story lines.

Now, if you want to bitch about something, do so about our media department that does NOTHING to tell our story. It was easy to see in the broadcast, especially pregame, that UT had fed ABC multiple story angles. ABC was happy to go that route because, 1.) they were compelling and 2.) they don't have to work. We can do the same thing if we know how --- the correct answer is we don't know how.

Rodo
Posted by Southtxag
San Mexico
Member since Dec 2012
369 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:04 pm to
The diploma mill argument pisses me off. I am the first to lament the slow plodding loss of tradition that is permeating our university. However, it is a needed change from a small military college mindset. The overall sense of service and sacrifice derived from our most treasured traditions remains intact.

There are only three traditions that I could not stomach being changed: silver taps, muster, and the ring. To me they define two major tenets of "aggiedom," service and brotherhood.

How does this fit into the diploma mill argument? Texas A&M as a public institution has a duty to supply our state with sufficient skilled workers for the state economy. We are blessed with an economy/population that is growing at a high rate. It is understandable for us to grow relative to the population. I believe that our university is the most well equipped to train future workers, not only academically- but with work ethic.

As another aside for your qualification comment, I would be livid if we ever eschewed the top 10% qualification (if we haven't already). I am well aware that there are kids more qualified coming from more strenuous high schools, and that plenty of small town kids flunk out.

Are we to punish small town kids for being born in a poor/small district? There is already a gap. I routinely tutored full ride kids that went to 5a schools while getting no monetary aid for my education. The difference? My school was a small town in Texas.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:09 pm to
I guess I'm not understanding your point. I don't disagree with any of that, and none of it has anything to do with a goal of 80k students being absurd.
Posted by Southtxag
San Mexico
Member since Dec 2012
369 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:14 pm to
Main point is that our public university has a duty to provide skilled workers to our state's workforce. As the state population/economy is growing at a high rate, it is not crazy to have the education rates/institutions to grow at a similar rate.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61046 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Main point is that our public university has a duty to provide skilled workers to our state's workforce. As the state population/economy is growing at a high rate, it is not crazy to have the education rates/institutions to grow at a similar rate.


80k though?

sorry but Roger is right.

if there is THAT much of a need for more educational opportunities in the state it would be much better for everyone to improve the other state schools like Texas State, Houston, North Texas, SFA, Sam Houston etc etc etc.

going to 80k is a money grab pure and simple.

Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1613 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Main point is that our public university has a duty to provide skilled workers to our state's workforce.


That's what the University system is for, not main campus.

Rodo
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
1613 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:21 pm to
And by the way, it's time A&M main campus jettisons the Ag school to another part of the system.

Rodo
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
61915 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

And by the way, it's time A&M main campus jettisons the Ag school to another part of the system.



bullshite
Posted by Southtxag
San Mexico
Member since Dec 2012
369 posts
Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:34 pm to
Sorry but statistically we are not expanding at the same rate as Texas' population (approximately 10%). If A&M expanded at that rate we would be looking at 5-6k increases every year.

Mathematically, it would only take 3 years get to yalls doomsday 80k. Considering it has taken about 6 years for us to go from 50-60k I think the middle ground should satisfy everyone.
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