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? for LSU fans: Losing Chavis was obviously a big blow last year.

Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9687 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:04 pm
Do you think hiring Aranda will help Orgeron bring LSU back to being a power on the D-line again?

Also, do you think that the lofty projections for A&M's D-line is just coincidence or is he (Chavis) really that good.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:04 pm to
Does he coach the D-Line?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:06 pm to
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? for LSU fans: Losing Chavis was obviously a big blow last year.

OBJECTION, assumes facts not in evidence.

/LSUfan
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18510 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Do you think hiring Aranda will help Orgeron bring LSU back to being a power on the D-line again?
I think Orgeron was on his way without Aranda, but the addition doesn't hurt.

quote:

Also, do you think that the lofty projections for A&M's D-line is just coincidence or is he (Chavis) really that good.
Myles Garrett was there before Chavis.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68647 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:09 pm to
Steele was awful, Aranda is a huge upgrade. Coach O made the DL much better last year than the year before, I expect only better this year returning almost everyone sans a hurt LaCouture and adding a beast like Valentine. It's not a front anyone is wanting to go up against anymore. Good experienced depth plus a ridiculously good starting 3. Throw Key in there as the rush OLB and it's a scary unit. The recruiting class of Lawrence, Alexander and Logan is 3 huge beasts for the DL in the future too. Roddy could move back to DL as well, Miles is playing with his dumb huge OL as TE role right now with Roddy.

Chavis doesnt coach the DL, that's some other guy at A&M, easy job when you have Garrett and Hall as your ends, although the question for them is really in the middle. How much will Mack step up?
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14931 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:10 pm to
I think Kevin Steele being our DC hurt more than losing Chavis. But I sacrifice last year because this year I would take our DC over Chavis any day of the week.

Garrett is the best DE in football. When you have a talent like that, it's not hard to create matchups for other players on the DL
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74833 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:10 pm to
Its was all part of sly Les Miles plan to unload Chavis to get an upgrade like Aranda and O. Our DLine will be back this year

AtM is stoked to be in the top 50 from dead last so good for them but thats about what their ceiling is

Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
4026 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:12 pm to
Not an LSU fan so I haven't kept too close of an eye on it, but from what I've seen and read on him, guy is a hell of a coach. I think LSU's defense will be improved under him
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

A&M's D-line is just coincidence or is he (Chavis) really that good.



They will dominate in OOC play.

SEC teams will still run down their throat.
This post was edited on 8/23/16 at 1:15 pm
Posted by IrrationalMeltdown
Member since Sep 2015
208 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:19 pm to
Les wanted Aranda last year, but the AD didn't get it done. We ended up with Steele.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36693 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:22 pm to
Losing Chavis was a step back. Overall I think the Aranda hire will prove to be more beneficial than keeping Chavis.
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

lofty projections for A&M's D-line is just coincidence or is he (Chavis) really that good.


Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37635 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Its was all part of sly Les Miles plan to unload Chavis to get an upgrade like Aranda and O. Our DLine will be back this year


According to New Orleans newspapers Miles was in shock when he found out Chavis was leaving.
Posted by bnb9433
Member since Jan 2015
13787 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

Les wanted Aranda last year, but the AD didn't get it done. We ended up with Steele.

Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60300 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:35 pm to
Apparently Garrett is now good according to LSU fans in this thread, but previously he was not good
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74833 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

According to New Orleans newspapers Miles was in shock when he found out Chavis was leaving


He sure was shocked that his buddy Chavis would downgrade to program like AtM

We all were
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68647 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Apparently Garrett is now good according to LSU fans in this thread, but previously he was not good



He's a great pass rusher, but still definitely struggles against the run.
Posted by lestertheghost
Member since Mar 2016
436 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:39 pm to
Everyone simply runs down aTm's throat

Its tradition
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81091 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Chavis doesnt coach the DL, that's some other guy at A&M, easy job when you have Garrett and Hall as your ends, although the question for them is really in the middle. How much will Mack step up?


There were two main issues with A&M's defensive tackles last year, talent and coaching.

Coaching - Mark Hagen, Mark Snyder's failed linebacker coach was moved to defensive tackles and retained for the sole purpose of "landing Malik Jefferson". You see how well that worked. So he ended up underperforming in all aspects and "taking a better job" at Indiana. We expect David Turner to perform better.

Talent - While Alonzo Williams and Julien Obioha (playing out of position) were hard workers, they are not Daylon Mack, Kingsley Keke, or Zaycovan Henderson. Hopefully we've seen the last of Hardreck Walker, as the development of T.D. Moton pushes him into obscurity once again.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 8/23/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

I think Kevin Steele being our DC hurt more than losing Chavis.



what makes you say this??
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