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re: Alabama grants release to DB Marcus Smith, pending SEC waiver ruling
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:04 pm to RT1941
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:04 pm to RT1941
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Saban will be criticized, critiqued, analyzed, scrutinized, evaluated, and examined until the day the hangs up his panama hat. It's the price you pay when college football spectators/enthusiasts are forced to watch his teams hoist the hardware on pace never before witnessed.
This is very true.
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1. Get asked question by media (a lot) about your position on a particular topic
In fairness, though:
Alabama coach Nick Saban said Tuesday he wasn't going to talk about satellite camps — and then he ranted about them.
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As I pointed out....Saban creates his own problems, sometimes. He has ever right to express his opinions, but he shouldn't get irritated when others express theirs.
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:06 pm to skrayper
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Except he didn't - he complained,
Wait. How can you say he didn't complain, and then turn around and say "he complained"?
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He didn't go on and on and on using social media.
He did on HUNH. I'm sure I can find stuff where he went on and on about HUNH, too.
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I swear, some people on here don't think before they post.
You are correct. You didn't.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He's really one of the most arrogant fools I've ever read, and that is saying something.
Especially since you have been reading my posts!
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:29 pm to DawgsLife
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I just find it odd that you and some other Alabama posters are quick to condemn a kid for complaining about a perceived wrong when Saban does the same thing a pretty fair amount himself
My complaint is that momma started all of this behind his back. That he had no idea to transfer until returning home after Spring. That they want to throw out the "can't trust Saban", when his mom is the one who went behind his back to start addressing his career issues. They instigated and started the ball rolling in every facet of this shitstorm. He needs to grow some balls. As an adult and college graduate, he needs to quit letting mommy dictate what he does. He also needs to learn how to deal with adversity without being such a whiny child and taking what should have been handled privately.. public.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 3:54 pm to Alahunter
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My complaint is that momma started all of this behind his back.
Not sure why anybody on this board would care. Seems like it would be an issue between him and his mom.
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That he had no idea to transfer until returning home after Spring.
The next day after his mother sent the e-mail to saban, Saban called him into his (Saban's) office. So he knew before Spring that it was going on. (This from a SI article an Alabama fan posted a link to)
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That they want to throw out the "can't trust Saban", when his mom is the one who went behind his back to start addressing his career issues.
To me it is always better to handle stuff like this person to person and not involve everybody else. However, it seems that Saban lit the fire when he called Smith into his office and blasted Mo, when Maurice was unaware what was going on. That was the mothers fault and Saban's fault. A total lack of communication all the way around. but it sounds as if that is where it escalated.
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he needs to quit letting mommy dictate what he does.
He didn't. As you and I both pointed out, Maurice did not know his mother instigated this. Once she did and he found out it was already blown up.
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He also needs to learn how to deal with adversity without being such a whiny child and taking what should have been handled privately.. public.
Good point, and this is true. However, look at all the pro athletes that handle their business publicly through the media. crap...50, 60 year old coaches do the same thing. It's hard for me to point a finger at a 21 year old kid for doing it.
Look, I am not trying to criticize Saban or Alabama. just trying to get some of you guys to look at this a bit more objectively. It was just a bad situation for everybody....and it made everybody (Mo, Mom, Saban, Alabama) look bad. nobody won.....well, Georgia might have. Only time will tell.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 8/11/16 at 4:06 pm to DawgsLife
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Not sure why anybody on this board would care. Seems like it would be an issue between him and his mom.
Because it affects the University that I'm a fan of, which is what I support. The individuals are a whole of that.
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The next day after his mother sent the e-mail to saban, Saban called him into his (Saban's) office. So he knew before Spring that it was going on. (This from a SI article an Alabama fan posted a link to)
He stated in his interview with AL.com that he had no clue why he was being yelled at. I posted that article in this thread. He never sought the idea of a transfer himself until after Spring practice. According to his and his mom's interview and their own words.
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To me it is always better to handle stuff like this person to person and not involve everybody else. However, it seems that Saban lit the fire when he called Smith into his office and blasted Mo, when Maurice was unaware what was going on. That was the mothers fault and Saban's fault. A total lack of communication all the way around. but it sounds as if that is where it escalated.
Totally his mother's fault. His animosity towards Saban is simply a son turning a blind eye to the wrong his mother did. I could honestly see every coach in FBS jumping on a player after a parent contacts them out of the blue complaining about not getting enough playing time. It would be pretty much assumed the player went to the parent. And as evidenced by his actions since, he is still hiding behind mommy's apron strings.
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He didn't. As you and I both pointed out, Maurice did not know his mother instigated this. Once she did and he found out it was already blown up.
And he's hidden behind her since. Instead of sucking up and working through adversity. He's basically taking his ball and going home. Not a helpful tactic in life.
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Good point, and this is true. however, look at ll the pro athletes that handle their business publicly through the media. crap...50, 60 year old coaches do the same thing. It's hard for me to point a finger at a 21 year old kid for doing it.
That's not a kid. Unless you think parents should be contacting Master Sargent's and telling them they should really be sending their son or daughter to be stationed in Italy instead of Kabul. He's an adult. He's a college graduate. He's allowed and made the choice to let mommy decide his immediate future and refused to stand up and live up to the obligation of playing where he originally signed to play.
Btw, he graduated in 3 yrs. A great accomplishment and not downing it at all. BUT, if he wants to play that 4th year.. then why not honor that 4 year scholarship? You know.. the one that everyone was saying Saban should give to every player just a couple of years ago? Why shouldn't the students be obliged to fulfill that obligation? And why should they be able to transfer to an in conference instution at all? They training and expertise that they received up to that point will be a disadvantage and punishment to the school that gave him that ability if they are forced to play them, whether in the regular season or SEC title game.
Posted on 8/11/16 at 8:01 pm to DawgsLife
19 by Steele. 18 from #1. Okay, I'm the clueless one.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 7:40 am to jatebe
It's gonna be hilarious when the first SEC impact player from another team decides that he'd like to compete for championships, too or get himself NFL ready by playing a year at Alabama. The bitching and moaning will be deafening!
Posted on 8/12/16 at 7:45 am to coachcrisp
Posted on 8/12/16 at 7:47 am to Alahunter
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The guy, by his momma's interference, likely just killed his chances of getting drafted or invited for workouts by NFL teams next spring.
It really is funny that some of you believe this.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 7:57 am to coachcrisp
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It's gonna be hilarious when the first SEC impact player from another team decides that he'd like to compete for championships, too or get himself NFL ready by playing a year at Alabama. The bitching and moaning will be deafening!
Y'all keep saying this but there just aren't that many of them out there. Particularly if they are an impact players. I can't name a single impact player that was a grad student that picked up and went to another school nation wide. Not saying they are not out there. Good ones? Maybe. Impact? I'm trying to think of one that went to another team and made a big difference.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:17 am to jatebe
Seems that by the time this goes through (assuming it does) he'll have missed most of fall camp and will still have to go through the acclimation process before he can practice in full pads. I don't see how that makes it worth it to the young man to try and play right now which is what this was about for him since he could've played at UGA after sitting out a year regardless of what Saban did.
He obviously has some talent but he needs a good season of more PT for a better shot at the NFL and this puts him behind that goal even though he's familiar with the defense and role he'll play, he hasn't had time to earn a spot or get into 'football shape.'
Shame it worked out this way as I really feel this was pissing match between Saban and Smart more than anything else.
He obviously has some talent but he needs a good season of more PT for a better shot at the NFL and this puts him behind that goal even though he's familiar with the defense and role he'll play, he hasn't had time to earn a spot or get into 'football shape.'
Shame it worked out this way as I really feel this was pissing match between Saban and Smart more than anything else.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:19 am to DawgsLife
We got the Dieter kid this year. Ask Tennessee fans if he's an impact player!
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:21 am to coachcrisp
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It's gonna be hilarious when the first SEC impact player from another team decides that he'd like to compete for championships, too or get himself NFL ready by playing a year at Alabama. The bitching and moaning will be deafening!
I'm sure it will happen, but not likely or often.
For Bama to take a 1 and Done you'd have to be a legit All SEC type starter for another team, and Bama would have to have a desperate need at that position, and the kid would have to be convinced his 1 year at Bama is better than starting 3 at his current school....etc., etc, etc.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:22 am to WorkinDawg
Read the post above you.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:24 am to WorkinDawg
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I'm sure it will happen, but not likely or often.
For Bama to take a 1 and Done you'd have to be a legit All SEC type starter for another team, and Bama would have to have a desperate need at that position, and the kid would have to be convinced his 1 year at Bama is better than starting 3 at his current school....etc., etc, etc.
The main thing is the player pretty much has to decide to leave a program before he can even talk to the other program to see if they will take him. besides qualifying for the other things needed to play
Saban isnt poaching players despite a what a few on here claim
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 8:25 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:42 am to DawgsLife
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I'm trying to think of one that went to another team and made a big difference.
Richard Mullaney comes to mind
Alabama graduate WR Richard Mullaney indicated that he has no regrets about transferring from Oregon State.
"When me and my dad were talking about the decision-making [during the transfer], we said it doesn't get any better than [Alabama]. So, that was pretty much it," said Mullaney.
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This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 8:44 am
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:57 am to 14&Counting
quote:I believe that we'll start seeing this more often with SEC players who want to go out a winner if the rule is changed.
Richard Mullaney comes to mind
Alabama graduate WR Richard Mullaney indicated that he has no regrets about transferring from Oregon State.
"When me and my dad were talking about the decision-making [during the transfer], we said it doesn't get any better than [Alabama]. So, that was pretty much it," said Mullaney.
Old Chinese adage: Be careful of what you wish for.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:03 am to coachcrisp
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believe that we'll start seeing this more often with SEC players who want to go out a winner if the rule is changed. Old Chinese adage: Be careful of what you wish for.
I just posted on the Bama board but Nick and Bama are catching an unwarranted amount of shite over this simply because everyone loves them some good ole Saban bashing.
But Saban knows this is bad for the game and the league. That said, if this is the way it's going to be no one will benefit from this as much as Bama. Because I can assure you that Saban will have a white board in his recruiting bunker of every grad. transfer on every SEC team that we are interested in and will run at them HARD if we think they can help us win.
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:23 am to coachcrisp
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We got the Dieter kid this year. Ask Tennessee fans if he's an impact player!
Do you have a first name? I'm not familiar with him. What position did he play? I tried to look up last years roster, but can't find him listed anywhere.
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