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Falcons: Neal it is, what you think?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:16 pm
Disappointed honestly. Thought pass rush or LB was a bigger need. Plus two top 10 picks fell in our lap and we drafted a safety.
Wanted Mack or Lawson... Maybe we can pick up Jenkins later.
Wanted Mack or Lawson... Maybe we can pick up Jenkins later.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:20 pm to dhuck20
Like it. Big hitter, looks like he can play multiple positions, fills a need at safety.
Good ball player and we need more of those on that defense.
Good ball player and we need more of those on that defense.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 9:30 pm to BranchDawg
A bit curious given that there is no pass rusher. Dion can't cover for 10 seconds. Definitely a Quinn pick.
But think about that. A second year head coach that has never been a head coach at any time in his career. Plucked out of Seattle due to Seattle's D reputation which he did not establish or get the players for. Yet, he is given the coaching and personnel keys to the kingdom for an NFL franchise with that limited experience.
How do you think it is going to turn out?
But think about that. A second year head coach that has never been a head coach at any time in his career. Plucked out of Seattle due to Seattle's D reputation which he did not establish or get the players for. Yet, he is given the coaching and personnel keys to the kingdom for an NFL franchise with that limited experience.
How do you think it is going to turn out?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:29 pm to dhuck20
The fact that Neal played for Florida is about the ninth thing wrong with this pick. Falcons needed a linebacker that could cover a TE and RB coming out of the backfield who could chip in on the pass rush. Myles Jack, who about 2 months ago would have been a pipe dream, was RIGHT THERE for the taking. Falcons passed on arguably the most talented player in the entire draft at a position of need to take a safety/linebacker hybrid who can't cover. Worrilow is breathing a sigh of relief now because his whiffs won't lead to touchdowns anymore because Neal's whiffs will lead to touchdowns. Horrible, horrible pick.
Until today, I liked everything Quinn had done. Beasley was a good pick last year and the defense looked improved (except the ability to cover a TE or RB). Today, Quinn reached two rounds too early for a garbage player who doesn't really have a defined position. He wanted his Kam Chancellor, but this guy isn't even close.
Until today, I liked everything Quinn had done. Beasley was a good pick last year and the defense looked improved (except the ability to cover a TE or RB). Today, Quinn reached two rounds too early for a garbage player who doesn't really have a defined position. He wanted his Kam Chancellor, but this guy isn't even close.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:17 pm to VADawg
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The fact that Neal played for Florida is about the ninth thing wrong with this pick. Falcons needed a linebacker that could cover a TE and RB coming out of the backfield who could chip in on the pass rush. Myles Jack, who about 2 months ago would have been a pipe dream, was RIGHT THERE for the taking. Falcons passed on arguably the most talented player in the entire draft at a position of need to take a safety/linebacker hybrid who can't cover. Worrilow is breathing a sigh of relief now because his whiffs won't lead to touchdowns anymore because Neal's whiffs will lead to touchdowns. Horrible, horrible pick.
I hate the gayturds as much as anyone here, but generally try to avoid allegiances when evaluating draft picks. With that said, this is just a horrible pick IMO. It's a reach, in a draft where we can't *afford* to reach due to limited picks. *IF* you're going to reach, at the very least, try to fricking trade back in the draft to net some additional picks.
Even if you're gun shy on Myles Jack, don't you still take Darron Lee or even Reggie Ragland (medical risk as well)? When I look at where we fall in round 2, there just figures to be a lot of available safety talent there.
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Quinn recruited Neal to Florida, so there’s familiarity.
Smells shitty...
Ugh. I'd like to blame this on TD, but this reeks of Quinn and Quinn alone.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:34 pm to fibonaccisquared
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but generally try to avoid allegiances when evaluating draft picks
Agree. If Hargreaves had fallen to 17, I would have loved the pick. Me hating this pick has nothing to do with Neal playing for Florida and everything to do with him being a mediocre football player.
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Ugh. I'd like to blame this on TD, but this reeks of Quinn and Quinn alone
100%. If Neal doesn't become Earl Thomas or Kam Chancellor, and quickly, this is a complete bust.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:56 am to VADawg
I think y'all are way overreacting. Myles jack was passed on by EVERY SINGLE TEAM. Clearly he has health issues that we needed to stay clear of. Shaq Lawson has to undergo shoulder surgery. Between Keanu, Ragland, and Lee, I don't think it's such a reach. Keanu seems like a hybrid safety/LB, and seems to have a lot of intangibles to complement his "fast and physical" play style.
I understand the criticism, but I think if our coach and staff thought Keanu was their guy, then I trust them. Quinn hasn't given us any reason to doubt his draft decisions yet. If this is a bust then okay, but I don't think it's worth getting our panties in a wad over before the dude even sees the field.
I understand the criticism, but I think if our coach and staff thought Keanu was their guy, then I trust them. Quinn hasn't given us any reason to doubt his draft decisions yet. If this is a bust then okay, but I don't think it's worth getting our panties in a wad over before the dude even sees the field.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 5:41 am to DanTheDawg
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then I trust them
Why?
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Quinn hasn't given us any reason to doubt his draft decisions yet.
See Collins 2 round 2015.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 6:30 am to WhopperDawg
Word is the Jets were going to take Neal at 21. Quinn and TD wanted this guy over everyone else.
I don't get it. Darron Lee is faster and bigger and could play that SS/WOLB role probably better than Neal.
The only thing that salvages this draft for me is if we get Myles Jack or Su'a Cravens in the 2nd round.
I'd like to see us get Carl Nassib or Bronson Kaufusi or Scooby Wright on top of that too.
I could be happy with a draft of Neal, Cravens, Nassib, and Wright.
I don't get it. Darron Lee is faster and bigger and could play that SS/WOLB role probably better than Neal.
The only thing that salvages this draft for me is if we get Myles Jack or Su'a Cravens in the 2nd round.
I'd like to see us get Carl Nassib or Bronson Kaufusi or Scooby Wright on top of that too.
I could be happy with a draft of Neal, Cravens, Nassib, and Wright.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:21 am to BeefDawg
Agreed it's not impossible to salvage the draft due to some of the talent left on the board, but it's pretty improbable at this point. The names you pointed out, likely to go earlier in the rounds than we have picks. This is why finding a way to trade back would have been ideal if this was the move. I'm not sure the jets pass on Lee if Neal is available, just feels like they panicked.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:50 am to fibonaccisquared
LOL. Dimitroff on 680 this morning. Basically admits that they didn't take best available because they valued the position more highly. Then said that Dans familiarity with Neal was a huge benefit. And that had Neal not been available they likely would have taken a DL that the fans wouldn't have been thrilled with. Can't make this shite up.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:59 am to dhuck20
I bet he does well his rookie year.
Long term...who knows.
Long term...who knows.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 8:07 am to retooc
NFL.com says this about him.. :jump1:
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Athletic frame with NFL size. Quick-twitch player cranks it up to top speed in a hurry. Explodes downhill in run support with blood in his eyes. Vicious hitter looking to bruise bones and set tones. Rangy run stopper. Drives all the way through his contact with aggressive finishes. Scouts impressed by his personal character. Good click and close skill in coverage. Is on top of receiver immediately after the catch. Worked from the box and as single high safety at Florida. Impact tackler around the line of scrimmage. Plays with a sense of desperation and rarely fatigues.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 8:13 am to DennisDawg
Would love for Jordan Jenkins to fall to us in the second
Posted on 4/29/16 at 8:17 am to retooc
He's physical and may end up becoming a LB and can play close to the LOS which we need badly. I do wish he was a little faster. I'll wait before I call it a terrible pick. I think he could be an Ogletree/Davis type of player eventually.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:30 am to DennisDawg
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Is on top of receiver immediately after the catch
That's not a positive when his job is to prevent the catch....
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:42 am to nickhole5
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I think he could be an Ogletree/Davis type of player eventually.
Ogletree is on a different level athletically plus 'tree wraps up but I think Quinn can teach that. He's got some qualities you can't teach...he wasn't scared to meet Henry head on and that's a rarity. Having seen how Quinn used Chancellor I can see why he likes Neal.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:16 am to SneakyWaff1es
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he wasn't scared to meet Henry head on and that's a rarity
He stoned him too.. very impressive.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:35 am to DennisDawg
Hope you guys are right on this. Still not sure he can cover Greg Olson though or any other TE with a pulse.
The one knock on Chancellor has always been his coverage skills, FWIW.
The one knock on Chancellor has always been his coverage skills, FWIW.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:48 am to VADawg
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Hope you guys are right on this.
Me too
I just like thinking that the guys that get paid millions of dollars to do this for a living have a little more knowledge on the subject than we do. Also, I, for now, trust Dan's judgment with getting "his guys" on D. 
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