Judge rules against opponents of removing Confederate memorials ...

History is written by the victors

Yawn.

In New Orleans, no one cares.

I'm going to call it Lee Circle forever.

I'll take the statue of RE Lee. I'll put that muddaphucka in my front yard as a lawn jockey. frick Nawlins PC bicches.

If it saves the tax payers money I'm all for taking these things down and auctioning them off. My desire to eliminate debts far surpasses any southern pride.

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So my question is, when are they going to start removing Union Memorials, up north, like the statue of that raping, pillaging, looting, burning, and butchering SOB Sherman in Central Park in NYC?

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Americans have committed war crimes in every conflict we've ever been involved in.

Take down all of the memorials.

I'm going to chime in my opinion on this long but at least interesting thread. Minus the obvious one liner trolls, it has given good insight into some of the minds that post regularly on the board.

America. The country itself was founded in equal parts by greed, persecution, hypocrisy, and bigotry.

The puritans came over to escape religious persecution and in doing so began persecuting the natives in the exact same ways in which they were trying to escape.The conquistadors came in search of riches and notoriety within their country. The settlers from all around the world showed up to the new honeycomb hideout and claimed it for themselves, while subjugating the established inhabitants as primitives, cavemen, etc.. Then came the wars, the commerce, more subjugation and razing of African people, slaughter and razing of the natives, indentured servitude of cultures not english or spanish.
This country is built upon a foundation of bad shite with the lip service to have a better life if you can make it. Our country and society is still globally new and we as a society are still trying to overcome our sordid past. Corruption is just as prevalent now as it was when the first drops of ink hit our constitution. I am not a America hater nor am I a hater of my heritage or my countries history. Our past belongs in museums (all past, not just civil war) because I am a firm believer in lessons that history teaches.

I support honoring the fallen of our conflicts because they and their families paid the price for someone else's decisions. I support making historic sites "untouchable" as they serve as a way to physically go see and stand in a place that has been significant to our countries history. (the Alamo, Fort Sumter, Fort Moultrie etc..)

The confederate battleflag does belong on any modern government building no more than a velvet painting of Andrew Jackson belongs on a casino wall owned by Native Americans. We can honor our past and learn from it without desecrating them or putting them up in the center of the city. Our past cannot be erased but we also cant let it write our future because we have not learned from it.

Religion does not have to be the forefront of everything, most religions carry more or less the same message, that ironically, most people never seem to get because they are too busy with the "my god can beat your god argument"

"Treat others well, be a good person, and contribute to the growth of yourself and everyone around you."
If we as a people, species, whatever, can learn to do this... then the atrocities of our past will never show up again in our future.

Everything outside of that is just polarizing bullshite. Right or wrong are really just a matter of perception from your side of the fence.