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re: Henry now Vegas favorite for Heisman
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:36 pm to aspiclark
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:36 pm to aspiclark
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and Alabama was manziel's biggest game of the season in 2012 btw, and what won him the heisman.
Why? Because it was Bama? aTm was playing for pride at that point.
In the most important game of the season, which you keep saying is all that matters, he played terribly against LSU.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:36 pm to RB10
That is where playing December 5th and not playing will decide who gets the trophy. I am not saying it will be Henry but I think someone playing that weekend will get it unless hopefuls have bad outings from here on out. JMO
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:38 pm to aspiclark
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yes, because it was bama.
More ignorance. Nice.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:38 pm to RB10
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Why? Because it was Bama?
I mean, yea. He did what nobody outside of Cam Newton had done to us in the Saban era. And Cam Newton........won the Heisman.
It was kind of a big deal.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:38 pm to TideWarrior
When the vote comes, IF, I said IF because there is alot of games left to be played, LF is leading Henry in YPC, YPG, and TD/g while playing in the same conference and having 6 common opponents there will be zero chance he loses the award to Henry. Now, if Henry can close the gap on at least one of those stats, it will be neck and neck between those two.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:39 pm to RB10
and also because of tv ratings, national press, memorable moments, etc.
but that's all because it was bama is the thing.
but that's all because it was bama is the thing.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:40 pm to lsupride87
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When the vote comes, IF, I said IF because there is alot of games left to be played, LF is leading Henry in YPC, YPG, and TD/g while playing in the same conference and having 6 common opponents there will be zero chance he loses the award to Henry. Now, if Henry can close the gap on at least one of those stats, it will be neck and neck between those two.
Mostly agree, though if it is close in those categories or Henry leads one (say TDs) and then goes off in the SECCG for 200 yards and 3 TDs........I think Henry would win.
Either way, lot of games left to play. Fully expect LF to run it up against Arky, Ole Miss and especially A&M.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:40 pm to Aman
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LF will still win it. He will go off for 600 yards over the next 3 games and wrap it up. Just means that defensive performance was that more impressive.
He'll get 300 in the last game so i can see 150 in the other 2
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Yeh like I said if Henry can just take one of those categories it will be neck and neck between the two of them
Mostly agree, though if it is close in those categories or Henry leads one (say TDs) and then goes off in the SECCG for 200 yards and 3 TDs........I think Henry would win.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:42 pm to TideWarrior
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That is where playing December 5th and not playing will decide who gets the trophy. I am not saying it will be Henry but I think someone playing that weekend will get it unless hopefuls have bad outings from here on out. JMO
Just playing on December 5th isn't enough though. Henry would need to show out. A mediocre performance could lose him the trophy.
ETA: If Fournette still has better numbers. If Henry's numbers are better, or equal, going into the game it doesn't matter.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:43 pm to RB10
Let Leonard run for 100+ the last three games and them try to give it to Henry.
Imagine how that looks:
Henry and LF both at the Heisman ceremony:
*they show Henry's stats*
1650 yards, 22 TDs on 300 carries in 13 games
*then Leonards*
1850 yards, 22 TDs on 260 carries in 11 games
Same position, same conference, same division...
Yeah it would make total sense.
Imagine how that looks:
Henry and LF both at the Heisman ceremony:
*they show Henry's stats*
1650 yards, 22 TDs on 300 carries in 13 games
*then Leonards*
1850 yards, 22 TDs on 260 carries in 11 games
Same position, same conference, same division...
Yeah it would make total sense.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:44 pm to lsupride87
Either way, long way to go.
One of Henry's games is against a 1AA team too, so he will probably get 9 carries for 65 yards or so in that one. Won't help much.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing more Drake and maybe even Bo Scarbrough the next 3 weeks. Saban made it pretty clear post-game that he really doesn't want to keep making Henry carry it 30+ times if they don't have to, and Drake seemed to be feeling the holes and such better on Saturday, which would give reason for him to get more carries.
One of Henry's games is against a 1AA team too, so he will probably get 9 carries for 65 yards or so in that one. Won't help much.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing more Drake and maybe even Bo Scarbrough the next 3 weeks. Saban made it pretty clear post-game that he really doesn't want to keep making Henry carry it 30+ times if they don't have to, and Drake seemed to be feeling the holes and such better on Saturday, which would give reason for him to get more carries.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:44 pm to lsupride87
First of all, not one voter will look at TDs per game. That stat was invented yesterday by LSU fans.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Drake tore us up more than Henry did. Although towards the end of the game our defense was a paper bag due to our lack of offense
Also, I wouldn't be surprised to start seeing more Drake and maybe even Bo Scarbrough the next 3 weeks. Saban made it pretty clear post-game that he really doesn't want to keep making Henry carry it 30+ times if they don't have to, and Drake seemed to be feeling the holes and such better on Saturday, which would give reason for him to get more carries.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:45 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:It was?
First of all, not one voter will look at TDs per game. That stat was invented yesterday by LSU fans.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:45 pm to JuiceTerry
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First of all, not one voter will look at TDs per game. That stat was invented yesterday by LSU fans.
No, but they will look at total TDs and the fact the Fournette will have played in 1 less game during the regular season.
The extra game in the SECCG will have been earned by Henry, if Bama gets there, and would not affect it at all.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:46 pm to lsupride87
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Drake tore us up more than Henry did. Although towards the end of the game our defense was a paper bag due to our lack of offense
Saturday was Drake's best game all year. Can't even really think of a close second.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:46 pm to WilliamTaylor21
do you guys seriously not realize that if those exact stats play out that that's exactly what will happen?
Henry just balled out on the biggest stage. fournette tucked tail and ran. he blew it. that's of more importance to heisman voters than a marginal difference in stats given who fournette put up those stars against. that's why Henry is the new front runner and fournette will have to live with what happened Saturday for the rest of his life.
Henry just balled out on the biggest stage. fournette tucked tail and ran. he blew it. that's of more importance to heisman voters than a marginal difference in stats given who fournette put up those stars against. that's why Henry is the new front runner and fournette will have to live with what happened Saturday for the rest of his life.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:47 pm to aspiclark
quote:It will for the most part be the exact same teams Henry put his lesser stats up against. That you are failing to grasp
given who fournette put up those stars against
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