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re: 1st CFP Rankings (2 LSU, 4 Bama, 10 FLA, 18 OM, 19 TAM, 20 Miss St)
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:11 pm to NashvilleTider
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:11 pm to NashvilleTider
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Eye test bitches
How on earth can anyone justify the college football playoffs being any better than BCS system?
There's no logic to it at all....if the "eye test" is all it takes, then shite
..... The game Sat. will be EPIC though, and this just adds to the hype....
Very smart marketing on their part too!!!
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:11 pm to Patton
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people with far more expirence than you in college football
Meh, Vegas is far more equipped to do this than any of us if you want to go that route, and they have quite a different view than the committee.
ETA: And does Condy Rice have more experience than any of us in football?
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Who cares where teams are
Because this thing pretty much shits on the whole credibility of it.
And part of the fun of sports, and the reason message boards like this one is exist, is to dick around, analyze, wax poetic, etc., about meaningless stuff like this.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:13 pm to skirpnasty
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They played UT, UK, etc... to the wire. Then lost to the only really good team they've played. Their ranking is justified and honestly they should probably be closer to 15 with FSU.
By those same standards- Bama played UT to the wire, has 0 wins against really good teams and lost to a mediocre team (if Florida's win against Ole Miss isn't a good win, then Bama's loss to Ole Miss is a bad loss).
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:13 pm to Skeeterpop
Yea. The big thing I cant get over is this new committee that was put together with people from all over the country. Very little direct ties to Alabama football and yet this group is biased for Alabama and no other teams. Just like the polls were. Hmmmm
Maybe the fact is that both the polls and the committee are not biased and their perception of Alabama is more close to reality than many want to admit. I know there are millions sick of Bama being good and they want us to lose every week so they dont have to hear about Bama anymore. That's understandable. It always happens when teams are very good for long periods of time.
Who cares where anyone is ranked right now. If you have less than 2 losses keep winning and argue when it matters. Because it really doesnt right now. Funny part is. 95% of the people arguing and fussing would be putting their money on Bama against the teams they are fussing about if they had to bet everything they owned. Thats reality.
Maybe the fact is that both the polls and the committee are not biased and their perception of Alabama is more close to reality than many want to admit. I know there are millions sick of Bama being good and they want us to lose every week so they dont have to hear about Bama anymore. That's understandable. It always happens when teams are very good for long periods of time.
Who cares where anyone is ranked right now. If you have less than 2 losses keep winning and argue when it matters. Because it really doesnt right now. Funny part is. 95% of the people arguing and fussing would be putting their money on Bama against the teams they are fussing about if they had to bet everything they owned. Thats reality.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:15 pm to Lou Pai
Vegas knows how to set lines that people will bet on. They know how to make money.
Just because you don't like or argee with their reasoning doesn't mean the whole thing lacks credibility. That group has more credibility then anyone else in CFB, that's why their on the committee.
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Because this thing pretty much shits on the whole credibility of it.
Just because you don't like or argee with their reasoning doesn't mean the whole thing lacks credibility. That group has more credibility then anyone else in CFB, that's why their on the committee.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:15 pm to fillmoregandt
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Was I the only one that saw Bama struggle against a shitty Tennseessee team?
Florida comes back in the 4th quarter vs. UT-- its sign of weakness; Bama does the same damn thing-- wow, look at that heart!
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:18 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Bama has a win over the 19th ranked team and a loss to the 18th team at home. All these people saying Bama gave the game away to Ole Miss are fricking morons. Swag had like 360 total yards and had 4 TDs. The only reason it even looked close is because the refs gave Bama that onside kick when there guy batted the ball forward.
UF has a win over Ole Miss.
At least Ole Miss lost to Memphis-- if they hadn't they'd probably be top 8- (makes Bama's loss look better)-- and then we'd all have to try and figure out having a team ranked about a program that beat them by 4 TDs.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:20 pm to lsupride87
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Wait Jeff, Bama has a more quality win than UF???????
What win is that? Is it A&M? Because I think you can make a case Ole Miss is better than A&M, what with beating A&M and all.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:20 pm to montanagator
Thank god we don't have to worry about that and we can continue to bitch about a poll that won't look any like the final one they come out with.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:21 pm to Patton
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Vegas knows how to set lines that people will bet on. They know how to make money.
That's just not how it works. Vegas' incentive is to be as close as possible to prevent arbitrage. Regardless, I wasn't talking about lines for any specific game. This is what I was referring to as a proxy for how Vegas is looking at CFB right now, irrespective of record. Keep in mind it's very fluid from week to week.
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Just because you don't like or argee with their reasoning doesn't mean the whole thing lacks credibility. That group has more credibility then anyone else in CFB, that's why their on the committee.
Sure, and that's fine, because it's my opinion. But I'm not sure Condy Rice has more credibility. Plus, I bet she secretly may be a Bama fan
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:22 pm to Lou Pai
quote:I got destroyed last year for asking why Vegas bookmakers wouldn't be better at this than the shite arse committee.
Meh, Vegas is far more equipped to do this than any of us if you want to go that route, and they have quite a different view than the committee.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:28 pm to Lou Pai
So according to that link Michigan state would be a 4.5 pt favorite over Alabama on a neutral site? Am I reading that right?
Of course Condy is a Bama fan, we had to sneak one of there someway.
Of course Condy is a Bama fan, we had to sneak one of there someway.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:29 pm to GEAUXmedic
How is this thread stickied? Is that a stupid question? Was intended.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:33 pm to montanagator
UF has always been my second favorite SEC team. But some of you Gator fans are crying like babies. Coming into tonight. I personally was ready to accept Bama being 9 or 10th. And knew we just have to keep winning to prove we belong in the discussion. So what UF is 9th?? Win. Just win your games and you will be in the playoffs. Who cares if ND, LSU, Baylor, TCU or Bama is ranked in front of you. You will pass them when you keep winning. Look at the poll and how many games are left. Just play football, win games and then you will have nothing to argue about when you are in.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:39 pm to beauchristopher
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Florida has beaten common opponents much more impressively.. and Florida's only lost was on the road against the #2 unbeaten team with a new QB and was a thriller.
Ok so what about Memphis? UF bias is showing or your logic needs some tuning...
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:40 pm to Skeeterpop
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Yea. The big thing I cant get over is this new committee that was put together with people from all over the country. Very little direct ties to Alabama football and yet this group is biased for Alabama and no other teams. Just like the polls were. Hmmmm
Maybe the fact is that both the polls and the committee are not biased and their perception of Alabama is more close to reality than many want to admit. I know there are millions sick of Bama being good and they want us to lose every week so they dont have to hear about Bama anymore. That's understandable. It always happens when teams are very good for long periods of time.
Who cares where anyone is ranked right now. If you have less than 2 losses keep winning and argue when it matters. Because it really doesnt right now. Funny part is. 95% of the people arguing and fussing would be putting their money on Bama against the teams they are fussing about if they had to bet everything they owned. Thats reality.
For me, I could care less about Bama or any team for that matter since there are still games to be played that will ultimately affect the final rankings anyway........what I don't understand is the lack of concrete criteria that the committee uses for making their decisions......like, what defines the "best" teams? Because "best" could be defined as anything....I mean, it seemingly changes when discussing one team over another and that's biggest the flaw in the committee, IMHO.
To your point, just keep winning and it doesn't matter........
; OR DOES IT? Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:41 pm to Skeeterpop
If Bama loses a second game you will not hear one word out of me about where we get ranked and that we should be in the playoff. With two losses, I think you lose any arguement about being one of the best 4 teams. You had your chance to redeem a loss. If you cant keep the loses to 1 or less, your out of the discussion. I dont care if every other team has 2 losses. You then have to accept where the cards fall. I personally would never lobby or argue for my team with two losses to get into a 4 team playoff. But thats just me.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 8:51 pm to Skeeterpop
Simple as this. This weekend game is to see who makes the CFB playoff if they win out afterwards. If Bama wins out, they'll be in the show. Same goes for LSU.
Should be a epic game!
It usually is since Saban's arrival.
Should be a epic game!
It usually is since Saban's arrival.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:01 pm to Patton
That's what I'm told, at least as an approximation for neutral sites. It doesn't always shake out like that, though.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:02 pm to bmy
To those of you complaining, please tell us your theory on why the playoff committee is so biased towards Alabama? Did we pay them off? Are there Bama grads on the committee? Does Condoleeza Rice have so much girl power on the committee that she could convince all those men to vote for Bama, even over her own university (Stanford)? Is the SEC office placing phone calls from Birmingham threatening to pull the SEC out of the CFP process unless they protect Bama?
Or is the committee taking an honest look at all the teams and simply believing, as does Vegas, that Bama would beat any of the undefeated teams ranked below it? Looks to me like they are being pretty consistent with a clear message: if you play nothing but cupcakes like TCU, Baylor, and Iowa do, or if you look like shite on a weekly basis (MSU this year, FSU last year), the committee is going to punish you regardless of your win/loss record.
Or is the committee taking an honest look at all the teams and simply believing, as does Vegas, that Bama would beat any of the undefeated teams ranked below it? Looks to me like they are being pretty consistent with a clear message: if you play nothing but cupcakes like TCU, Baylor, and Iowa do, or if you look like shite on a weekly basis (MSU this year, FSU last year), the committee is going to punish you regardless of your win/loss record.
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