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re: 1st CFP Rankings (2 LSU, 4 Bama, 10 FLA, 18 OM, 19 TAM, 20 Miss St)
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:05 pm to SquirrelyBama
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:05 pm to SquirrelyBama
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Simple as this. This weekend game is to see who makes the CFB playoff if they win out afterwards. If Bama wins out, they'll be in the show. Same goes for LSU.
What if LSU beats themselves this weekend on the road? Shouldn't LSU get the bump over Bama for beating themselves on the road instead of beating themselves at home.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:12 pm to SquirrelyBama
This stupid committee is only here because of the LSU/Bama NC game. They are setting this up to knock one of them out because they think the west team will win the SEC champ game. No way they want 2 SEC teams in.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:33 pm to Jamie Lannister
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who has Florida played with a QB? lol
Chad Kelley is better than any QB Clemson has faced.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:37 pm to Atxgump
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Might as well put us at #1, gonna end up there in january anyway, why not beat the xmas rush?
Its stuff like this that's going to make everyone root for Ole Miss if you guys win this weekend-- because the fact is if Ole Miss wins out Bama's not making the playoffs-- it'd go to a 1 loss Florida team and/or the SEC would be shutout.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:39 pm to Jamie Lannister
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NC State QB will be in the NFL and he's better than any QB in the SEC this year.
You mean the guy who couldn't break into the starting line up at Florida and would be in a battle for the starting spot with Treon Harris right now?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:41 pm to skirpnasty
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I agree. When I say that there aren't quality wins there, I'm really saying "current top 25 wins".
However, I am 100% willing to say that the Bama game was a turning point for both UGA and A&M. I think those were both much better teams before their first loss, which both happened to come against Bama. At the point they occurred, I would definitely count those as quality wins. I don't think a single A&M or UGA fan would argue that their team is playing as well now as it was prior to that game.
So Bama's good enough to do to A&M and UGA what we did to the team that beat Bama?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:44 pm to skirpnasty
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UGA, ATM and WIS are good wins but no longer great ones.
Fair enough, but 3 "good" wins is still a lot more than most teams have. Florida has one win that can even be considered "good", and several near losses to less than stellar teams.
They have at least two- UGA and Ole Miss (Ole Miss is better than any team Alabama has beaten) and the closest "near loss" occurred against Tennessee-- a team that also required Bama to stage a comeback late in the 4th.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:47 pm to bama1959
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Bama #4. This is good. This early ranking may be important if Ole Miss wins out.
If Ole Miss wins out Bama gets left out-- if Bama doesn't win the division they're not making the playoffs.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:48 pm to montanagator
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Chad Kelley is better than any QB Clemson has faced.
Not sure who Kelley is but Kelly is on pace to throw like 20 picks.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 9:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Idk, didn't Mississippi State barely fall when they first lost? I forgot how funny the ranking were last year. State, FSU, Auburn, Ole Miss was the first ranking. That's funny right there
That was a weird situation in which a team lower on the football hierarchy starts knocking off big dogs. Combine that with preseason biased and you end up with that result.
If the 3 teams had been Alabama, Auburn, and LSU, they wouldn't have all been in the top 4 because they beat the people they were supposes to beat.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:05 pm to Monticello
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To those of you complaining, please tell us your theory on why the playoff committee is so biased towards Alabama? Did we pay them off? Are there Bama grads on the committee? Does Condoleeza Rice have so much girl power on the committee that she could convince all those men to vote for Bama, even over her own university (Stanford)? Is the SEC office placing phone calls from Birmingham threatening to pull the SEC out of the CFP process unless they protect Bama?
Or is the committee taking an honest look at all the teams and simply believing, as does Vegas, that Bama would beat any of the undefeated teams ranked below it? Looks to me like they are being pretty consistent with a clear message: if you play nothing but cupcakes like TCU, Baylor, and Iowa do, or if you look like shite on a weekly basis (MSU this year, FSU last year), the committee is going to punish you regardless of your win/loss record.
For me, it's not about Bama...........and no, I'm not complaining because I could make a case for why LSU should not be in the top 4 just as I could for Bama or any other team to be honest..........just establishing the fact (and it has been proven by the committee with this latest poll) that W/L record is NOT a factor in determining the top 4 teams and/or "best" teams, which is okay now that it has been confirmed!!!
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:18 pm to Colonel Flagg
Just watched the playoff show. Good lord Joey freaks the frick out when people Alabama gets love. He's literally freaking out
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:37 pm to Monticello
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To those of you complaining, please tell us your theory on why the playoff committee is so biased towards Alabama? Did we pay them off? Are there Bama grads on the committee? Does Condoleeza Rice have so much girl power on the committee that she could convince all those men to vote for Bama, even over her own university (Stanford)? Is the SEC office placing phone calls from Birmingham threatening to pull the SEC out of the CFP process unless they protect Bama?
Or is the committee taking an honest look at all the teams and simply believing, as does Vegas, that Bama would beat any of the undefeated teams ranked below it? Looks to me like they are being pretty consistent with a clear message: if you play nothing but cupcakes like TCU, Baylor, and Iowa do, or if you look like shite on a weekly basis (MSU this year, FSU last year), the committee is going to punish you regardless of your win/loss record.
If that's the case why would a 2 or 3-loss Bama team not be just thrown in the top-4 if the committee feels they could beat the teams ahead of them.
But in reality -- it's about money and ratings. If LSU and Bama didn't play this coming saturday then both teams would not be ranked in the top-5. They overrank one or both teams leading to big matchups and the loser drops regardless -- problem solved.
The "would likely beat teams in front of you" argument is retarded. Football is about matchups. TCU may be able to beat Alabama 75% of the time, Alabama may be able to beat LSU 75% of the time, and LSU may be able to beat TCU 75% of the time. Those teams are ranked #4, #5, #6 -- who gets left out? The #6 that matches up well against the #1 seed? The #4 team gets bumped because they match up poorly against #3?
This is why resume and achievements are key. Something the committee is largely ignoring in their first poll.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 10:59 pm to SquirrelyBama
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Simple as this. This weekend game is to see who makes the CFB playoff if they win out afterwards. If Bama wins out, they'll be in the show. Same goes for LSU.
I thought we were overvaluing losses? If one loss doesn't keep Bama out why would it keep LSU out?
A fun scenario for everyone involved (except UF, sorry gators).. LSU loses ugly to Bama in a relatively close game. Let's say 7-10 points. LSU wins after this game. Bama wins out, but loses to Florida (who just recently got whipped by FSU). We now have a 1-loss Top-6 LSU coming off a dominant win over Top-15 Texas A&M.. whos only loss was a close road game against a Top-10 team.
2 loss Alabama, eliminated.
2 loss Florida, likely eliminated due to head to head vs LSU
1 loss LSU, Top-6 and primed to take Bamas spot in the top-4 or top-5. Buga is sitting at just over 1900 yards after running for 225 against A&M.. potentially the first back to break 2k in 12 games since '07..
Hard to say no
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:08 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Pollack
"Alabama shot themselves in the foot against Ole Miss."
I love how we overlook a poorly played game in which they turned the ball over 5 times and forgive them for it because they're Alabama.
Dumbest shite ever.
At home, no less.
Utah turned the ball over 4 times against Southern Cal. Did they beat themselves? How about Stanford? First game of the year they play a dud at Northwestern. But I guess they just lost because they suck.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:09 pm to montanagator
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If Ole Miss wins out Bama gets left out-- if Bama doesn't win the division they're not making the playoffs
If Bama wins out they will be 3rd place at worse. They will have beaten 3 previosly undefeated top 10 teams. 2 of which are on the road. And then we get to revenge the OSU loss.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:14 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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The good thing about Bama having 5 straight #1 ranked recruiting classes is anyone can make an argument for Bama beating anyone else, but not all other teams have an argument for beating Bama.
One of the most irrelevant things I've ever read.
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and you could argue they'd beat Iowa if Clement wasn't injured.
Classic Alabama fan
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:17 pm to bama1959
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If Bama wins out they will be 3rd place at worse.
lol
Big XII schedules are backloaded. If Clemson, Ohio State, and a Big XII team win out, Alabama absolutely will not be top 3.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:26 pm to TT9
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Loving the LSU fans being the most vocal bitching.
par for the course.
You people are pretty stupid really, you know that LSU has at least 10 times more people on this site than any other team right? You think maybe that could be the reason?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 11:36 pm to bama1959
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If Bama wins out they will be 3rd place at worse. They will have beaten 3 previosly undefeated top 10 teams. 2 of which are on the road. And then we get to revenge the OSU loss.
1. There are other teams that could win out that could jump Alabama due to being undefeated, having a conference title, and generally better record strength
2. If Ole Miss wins out Alabama does not go to the SECCG and will most certainly not be in the playoff at all, let alone 3rd.
3. the committee has unequivocally stated that the rankings of teams at the time of the game are IRRELEVANT. @Georgia and @A&M, are NOT top 10 wins now, and they will not be at the end of the season.
4a. "at worse." c'mon man.
4b. "previosly" sigh.
4c. "And then we get to revenge the OSU loss." "AVENGE" LOOK IT UP!
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