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Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:45 am to reel_gator8
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:45 am to reel_gator8
Hargreaves did 1 on 1 with Cooper and lose a few times Reel...it's going to happen he was taller and could get over Hargreaves and was the best WR in the country so not much you can do. As for Poole, Poole was the one who got burned a ton in the Bama game. Kiffin located Poole and found ways to get him on Amari because Poole struggles with WR's on the outside on deep routes. Poole is great in the slot, but bad outside. Our safeties were awful though I agree.
Not anymore though. Maye is in the backfield all the time, and Neal is a really good cover safety. Morrison is hurt and it shows in his coverage so hopefully Ole Miss can't expose that too often.
Not anymore though. Maye is in the backfield all the time, and Neal is a really good cover safety. Morrison is hurt and it shows in his coverage so hopefully Ole Miss can't expose that too often.
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 3:15 am to Gatorbait2008
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We also have pass rushers on the Dline, not run stuffers really. All four guys attack and aren't there to clog lanes. Which is good for running teams, bad for Ole Miss.
Serious question: do you read? Did you not read "vastly improved"....by this I mean they are rushing for ~200 yards a game with a +5 yards a carry average. Even against Bama, when you take out the sacks, they rushed for 126 yards.....as much as everyone wants to say Ole Miss can't run that actually has not been the case....so by all means rush the passer all day. Walton, Wilkens and Kelly can make you pay for that.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 3:22 am to Gatorbait2008
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Bullard is a late bloomer like Fowler. 8 TFL, 4 sacks.
Please note that yes these are impressive if taken in a vacuum. However when you look at the level of competition you will notice he was playing against some subpar SEC OL (not to say that OL Miss are run graders by any stretch). Kentucky's OL was BAD....2 true freshman starting at OT bad. Tennessee isn't not much better, they basically returned the same guys that Ole Miss held to 3 yards rushing last year. Now as I said Ole Miss isn't some OL powerhouse but they are more than serviceable as demonstrated by the job they did against Bama. Will you pressure Kelly, yes. Just not to the extent you think you will. Will you stop the run, not nearly to the extent you think you will.
The better question is will your offense consistently move the ball vs Ole Miss?
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 3:25 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:57 am to ABearsFanNMS
Florida will pressure Kelly and disrupt Ole Miss' run game. That is just going to happen. Ole Miss does not have a particularly good OL. They have a good QB, really good skill players, solid special teams, and a solid defense. That is why they have won the games they have won. That and big plays.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:02 am to atlgator
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The thing about that is Florida is going to have the first three options locked down on most plays
If y'all have the first 3 options locked down on most plays, you shouldn't come close to losing a game the entire year.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:34 am to ABearsFanNMS
I guess we might as well not even play the game. Florida's defensive line sucks. Florida's secondary can't cover the Godly Ole Miss wide receivers. Florida's offensive line (that held up against a pretty good Tennessee defensive line) has NO CHANCE to slow down Mississippi's all-world pass rush. The Swamp will have no impact on the game. Might as well not even play the game.
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Will you pressure Kelly, yes. Just not to the extent you think you will. Will you stop the run, not nearly to the extent you think you will.
I disagree. McCalister and Bullard are going to be two of the best pass rushers that Ole Miss will see this season. Keep over-hyping Bama based on merit from the national titles they won 3 years ago. Florida's defensive line is nasty. If you don't think they will cause havoc on a ton of plays, you are in for a shocker come Saturday night. Ole Miss is going to try to get the ball out of Chad Kelly's hands as quickly as possible. They are going to have a lot of throws into the flats, slants, and curls, and with the speed of Florida's defense, that won't be as successful as it has been so far this season for Ole Miss.
As for the run game, Florida held traditional running backs for Tennessee to 108 yards on 34 carries. I don't know how good Chad Kelly runs the ball, but I have to think it is not nearly as good as Josh Dobbs. So I feel pretty good about Florida stopping the run against the Rebs
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:37 am to atlgator
Kelly doesn't run as well as Dobbs, not even close. I would compare his mobility to Grier. Very able to use his legs when needed to do damage, but not a true dual threat like Dobbs.
Ole Miss will move the ball around, of that I have no doubt. But if you make them work for TDs they aren't as dangerous. Should be a really good game. Fabulous match up.
Florida's offense is the weak link and will probably determine the out come of the game.
Ole Miss will move the ball around, of that I have no doubt. But if you make them work for TDs they aren't as dangerous. Should be a really good game. Fabulous match up.
Florida's offense is the weak link and will probably determine the out come of the game.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:44 am to DingDongEddieStrong
VHIII=overhype
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:47 am to slayerxing
I like the way we match up with Ole Miss much better than how we matched up against Tennessee.
I think we match up better with Ole Miss than Alabama did, too. We just have to find a way to put points up. Whether its a special teams score, defensive score, a big turnover deep in their own territory, something. If this thing is close going into the fourth quarter, I think we have a very good chance at winning.
Also, Ole Miss has great defensive linemen, but they only have 3 sacks for the year. Their pass rush is not nearly as good as their run stopping ability. It will be interesting to watch how our offensive line holds up in pass blocking on Saturday night. If they can give Grier some time, he has shown the ability to pick defenses apart.
I think we match up better with Ole Miss than Alabama did, too. We just have to find a way to put points up. Whether its a special teams score, defensive score, a big turnover deep in their own territory, something. If this thing is close going into the fourth quarter, I think we have a very good chance at winning.
Also, Ole Miss has great defensive linemen, but they only have 3 sacks for the year. Their pass rush is not nearly as good as their run stopping ability. It will be interesting to watch how our offensive line holds up in pass blocking on Saturday night. If they can give Grier some time, he has shown the ability to pick defenses apart.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:52 am to atlgator
Our pass rush is fine. It forces people to get rid of it early, and thus creates turnovers. Look at our turnover numbers these last two years. It's effective, we just don't get as many sacks as we do turnovers, and we are fine with that 
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:53 am to hehatedrew
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Our pass rush is fine. It forces people to get rid of it early, and thus creates turnovers. Look at our turnover numbers these last two years. It's effective, we just don't get as many sacks as we do turnovers, and we are fine with that
Fair enough, I was just looking at stats an made that observation. It'll be a great game on Saturday.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:54 am to atlgator
Agree, it should be
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:56 am to nc14
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VHIII=overhype
NFL Scouts over hyping him or just Gator fans on a troll message board.
He's projected to be a top draft pick.
Overhype isn't a word by the way. It's over hype.
Cackalack
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:00 am to roadGator
Actually it is but if we are playing being technical this Wednesday morning then it's V.H.3, no?
Project all you want, teams aren't throwing away from him.
Project all you want, teams aren't throwing away from him.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:03 am to nc14
I'm not projecting. It's folks that specialize in the NFL draft that project where college players will be selected in said draft. Again, who is overhyping him?
He's also been injured much of the year so far.
Overhype is like toothbrush for me. If I say it too much I just don't think it's right. You were right.
He's also been injured much of the year so far.
Overhype is like toothbrush for me. If I say it too much I just don't think it's right. You were right.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 8:04 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:12 am to roadGator
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who is overhyping him?
This board, not just Gator fans. He was dinged up last year too. He's good, just not as good as I read on here.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:13 am to nc14
I think he ends up being a lock down nfl corner. The scouts at that level don't miss too often, especially not on talent like him
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:15 am to atlgator
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I don't know how good Chad Kelly runs the ball, but I have to think it is not nearly as good as Josh Dobbs.
So basically you are admitting you know nothing about Ole Miss and are going off stats.
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Fair enough, I was just looking at stats an made that observation.
Yep proved it that you are just going off a stat sheet.....whereas I some of have actually watched most of the other teams game and came away with a much better appreciation of how the team's match up.
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It'll be a great game on Saturday.
Best thing any Gator fan that hasn't taken the time to watch the opposing teams games can say at this point. If you are just going off stats not sure why no one has said Ole Miss is by far the best offense the Gators have seen thus far this year coupled with the best defense they have seen thus far. But then again your DL will feast on Kelly while the secondary is going to shut down the top 3 WRs and Bama isn't nearly as good on defense as Florida
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:16 am to hehatedrew
He will need some size, he's too small to hit the way he does.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 8:25 am to nc14
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This board, not just Gator fans. He was dinged up last year too. He's good, just not as good as I read on here
The Jags will hire you as a scout. I'm not even lying. You'd probably be an upgrade.
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