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re: Treadwell vs. VH3

Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by TheCosbySweater
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 6:52 pm to
Welp! There we have it boys! We got ourselves another one upper! Can't make a thread without Bama or LSU inserting a guy who played for them into the convo. That player always being better, of course
Posted by ALRebel
Member since Aug 2015
75 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:43 pm to
I've actually enjoyed reading a grown up and knowledgeable exchange between two fan bases. It is sometimes better than reading the d*ck measuring posts sometimes.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:45 pm to
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Our O-line isn't that bad??? We did ok against Alabama which is the toughest we will face.



Our dline is better than Bama's against the pass. Much better pass rushers.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:47 pm to
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Just stop now. Your team sucks, they are 4-0 against nobody, your coach no one ever heard of, your Natties are yesterday's news, and Gainesville is so bass ackwards it makes Mogadishu look like a bastion of 1st world entertainment. Nobody likes Florida. You are like Kentucky or Vandy or Tennessee football. The Mississippi schools are more advanced than you now. Just take up ice hockey and join the Northeast Athletic Conference. Hell, half of your school is Yankees anyways. Go Rebels!!




Wal Mart called. Your dumb arse is late for your shift again.
Posted by assassin18
Member since Sep 2015
499 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:48 pm to
Biggest mismatch in this game is Florida OL vs the Ole Miss DL. Ole Miss DL should destroy them up front.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 9:50 pm to
Yea...I'm already having nightmares of Dillard trying to block Robert


Though with your injuries...good luck trying to block Bullard. He's been more productive than Robert with 4 sacks and 8 TFL already. Kids a freak. To bad Kentucky and Tenn stopped passing because their Qb's were getting destroyed or he may be at 6 or 7 now.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17545 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:14 pm to
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The thing about that is Florida is going to have the first three options locked down on most plays.


You haven't played a WR corps like Ole Miss yet. I will give you that you have a talented secondary (just a tad better than Ole Miss due to VH) but most is not likely. I will say 50% of the time meaning Kelly has to quickly ID the open man and get the ball out before the pressure gets to him. Going to be a great chess match to say the least.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:16 pm to
Florida has a top ten defense in the nation, and the best secondary in the nation.

Ole Miss not finna eat
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17545 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:17 pm to
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It's big words and high praise, but it is warranted. Florida's secondary is for real. They held Tennessee's receivers to a total of 3 catches on Saturday.


Got dayum you slammed some serious homer juice didn't you. Tennessee, mother fricking Tennesse bubba ain't Ole Miss. Please go watch some games before you open your meth infected mouth again. Something I have done after watch 3 of Florida's games this year.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17545 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:28 pm to
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You don't realize how good Florida's defensive line is.


They are so good that UT actually rushed for more yards than they average per game. You do realize no matter how many times people say Ole Miss sucks a running the ball that they have greatly improved this year, rushing for nearly 200 yards a game and actually are 3rd overall in yards per attempt even after playing probably the best front 7 in the SEC and likely the most overall improved defense in the SEC this year.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1243 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:32 pm to
So what does treadwell, swag, and co. have to score this week to outscore the gators? 3?? maybe 7 points??

I think we'll be fine
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:09 pm to
I will say this right now: Ole Miss WILL throw for 300 yards. Their receivers are that good, and they can hit you at all level of the defense with the passing game, short throws, outside and inside the hashes, and deep down the field.

That being said, UF's defense will cause some damage. I doubt Ole miss runs for too much and I bet Kelly is harassed most of the night.

UF gave up some big chunk plays against Dobbs on the ground last week, but against the traditional run, they held up pretty well. Hurd averaged less than 4 yards per carry, and no one has really been able to run up the middle very well.

Add in the fact that Ole Miss' line has not been very good, especially at generating push in the middle, and I think the only place they have success is on the edges. I think Walton will have about 80 yards or so, similar to Boom Williams at UK 2 weeks ago.

I think Ole Miss will end up at about 450 yards of offense or so, the key to the game will down to three things: 1. UF red zone defense, 2. UF pass protection, 3. Preventing big game changing plays.

When Alabama played Ole miss, they did OK with #2, but really fricked up with #1 and #3, and that is why they lost.

Vanderbilt proved fairly well, that if you prevent the big play, and make Ole Miss drive, they aren't nearly as dangerous. Easier said then done, but I'm thinking if Florida is going to win, the score will have to be 27-26 or something, with Ole miss kicking 4 FGs. If Ole Miss makes it over 30, and is scoring TDs, Florida will lose because they won't be able to keep up without defensive or special team scores.

Just my 2 cents.



Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17545 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:16 pm to
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1. UF red zone defense, 2. UF pass protection, 3. Preventing big game changing plays.


Very good analysis but #2 is where I have to completely disagree (other than the outcome). If you go back and actually pay attention to our games thus far you will see that the Ole Miss DL has pressured opposing QBs. It hasn't lead to sacks but rather rushed passes leading to INTs. Add in the fact that Ole Miss is coming off an emotional let down post Bama I think you can be certain you'll likely see the team that played Bama and not last week.
Posted by TheCosbySweater
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
1743 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:31 pm to
Liked that post. I am going to go ahead and say it... I am glad we played Vandy so early in the season. They are really stepping it up and may cause some serious problems for the East hopefuls around November.
Posted by TheCosbySweater
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
1743 posts
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:31 pm to
Your D line is better than Bama's in zero ways. Please stop
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:09 am to
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They are so good that UT actually rushed for more yards than they average per game. You do realize no matter how many times people say Ole Miss sucks a running the ball that they have greatly improved this year, rushing for nearly 200 yards a game and actually are 3rd overall in yards per attempt even after playing probably the best front 7 in the SEC and likely the most overall improved defense in the SEC this year.


Dobbs ran like crazy. If you think you have DLine who can catch him, you're wrong. We also have pass rushers on the Dline, not run stuffers really. All four guys attack and aren't there to clog lanes. Which is good for running teams, bad for Ole Miss.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:11 am to
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Your D line is better than Bama's in zero ways. Please stop




Besides a better DT and a better pass rusher.

You're right..not even close. Bullard is better than anyone on Bama's line, and Alex is a better pass rusher than anyone Bama offers. So yes. It is better vs a passing team. Bama has a better run stuffing front seven. We have a better pass rushing front seven. If you followed football, you'd have already known this.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17545 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:22 am to
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Bullard is better than anyone on Bama's line, and Alex is a better pass rusher than anyone Bama offers. So yes. It is better vs a passing team. Bama has a better run stuffing front seven. We have a better pass rushing front seven. If you followed football, you'd have already known this.


Funny I guess the NFL scouts & GMs disagree with you in regards to Bullard. The three services I looked at had him on average the 6th best draft eligible DT coming out of the SEC this year. Additionally, Bama has 2 tackles listed in the top 20 DTs eligible for the draft this year. Granted they are more geared towards stopping the run whereas Florida pins their ears back to rush the QB......However you played Kentucky with 2 freshman OTs and Tennessee with where everyone knew ahead of time that their OL is extremely weak based upon last years performance and what they returned. Not saying Ole Miss will completely negate your DL but they are better than what you'd seen thus far and have played decent against just as good if not likely better competition in T-Town.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 1:25 am to
Bullard is a late bloomer like Fowler. 8 TFL, 4 sacks. He is a monster right now. He wasnt used effectively last year I think changing D Line coaches really shows. Our defensive line wasn't all that great last year QB's had all day. Rumph has really done well putting this line together. Like I said. Florida's Dline is better vs the pass, Bama's vs the run.

Bullard is moving up the draft, and quickly. His production has already gotten noticed. My statement wasn't intended to say Bama has a bad Dline at all. It's our Dline is better suited for a team like Ole Miss. Where as Bama's will be better vs teams like Georgia and LSU.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:34 am to
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Monticello


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Except that Amari Cooper faced VH3 last year.



Last year when we played Bama we had real issues at safety that even Muschamp wasnt aware of...after a few more games and with intense coaching up by Muschamp...our safeties then became a cohesive unit. Hargreaves and Cooper did not face each other in man on man at all...because of our safety issues and credit Bama for putting Cooper in position to burn UF.

We have Brian Poole who start at almost any school in the country, the safeties have become a hard hitting unit feared by WRs. Marcel Harris hasnt quite developed yet and would be liability imo one on one. Porter is going to be a very good CB soon...he played snaps against UT as a dime back mostly.

Hargreaves is hurt but a gamer...Antonio Morrison is also hurt but ditto, Bullard is also banged up some but ditto ditto. These guys want their draft stock high and they are competitors.

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