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US Trained Division 30 "betrays" US, hands over weapons and vehicles to ISIS
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:04 pm
Division 30 article
So, the real question is: Who still believes that the US didn't create and isn't supporting ISIS? The only misleading word in this article is the word "betray" because Division 30 didn't betray the US...they followed orders. This is the United States way of supplying our proxy army in the Mideast.
ISIS is our proxy army in the Mideast. They are our creation. We are funding and supplying them. There is mounting evidence to support this. The linked article is just the latest evidence.
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Pentagon-trained rebels in Syria are reported to have betrayed their American backers and handed their weapons over to al-Qaeda in Syria immediately after re-entering the country.
Fighters with Division 30, the “moderate” rebel division favoured by the United States, surrendered to the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra, a raft of sources claimed on Monday night.
Division 30 was the first faction whose fighters graduated from a US-led training programme in Turkey which aims to forge a force on the ground in Syria to fight against Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil).
A statement on Twitter by a man calling himself Abu Fahd al-Tunisi, a member of al-Qaeda’s local affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, read: "A strong slap for America... the new group from Division 30 that entered yesterday hands over all of its weapons to Jabhat al-Nusra after being granted safe passage.
"They handed over a very large amount of ammunition and medium weaponry and a number of pick-ups."
So, the real question is: Who still believes that the US didn't create and isn't supporting ISIS? The only misleading word in this article is the word "betray" because Division 30 didn't betray the US...they followed orders. This is the United States way of supplying our proxy army in the Mideast.
ISIS is our proxy army in the Mideast. They are our creation. We are funding and supplying them. There is mounting evidence to support this. The linked article is just the latest evidence.
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:13 pm to mizzoukills
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So, the real question is: Who still believes that the US didn't create and isn't supporting ISIS?
We'll allow them to frick up every country that borders Israel and then "destroy" ISIS.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:15 pm to mizzoukills
You are stretching, but our country is led by idiots who would rather throw money around and train foreigners to hopefully not betray us and to dodge actually doing something about terrorists.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:17 pm to mizzoukills
I wish the Government was really as smart as you people think it is.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:17 pm to Open Dore Policy
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You are stretching, but our country is led by idiots who would rather throw money around and train foreigners to hopefully not betray us and to dodge actually doing something about terrorists.
If you think that is what's happening, you're the idiot.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:19 pm to Hardy_Har
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wish the Government was really as smart as you people think it is.
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:28 pm to Hardy_Har
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I wish the Government was really as smart as you people think it is.
So funding and supplying a proxy army is too advanced for the United States of America? I mean, we've never done that before, right? LOL
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:40 pm to Stonehog
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If you think that is what's happening, you're the idiot.
Guess I'm an idiot.
Stonehog said so.
Everybody trusts Stonehog.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:43 pm to mizzoukills
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So funding and supplying a proxy army is too advanced for the United States of America? I mean, we've never done that before, right? LOL
It's like people have already forgotten about Al Qaeda.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:46 pm to Open Dore Policy
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Guess I'm an idiot
Well, you acted incredulous at the thought that the U.S. government would fund terrorist groups. We've been doing that for decades! The U.S. funded Bin Laden and Al Qaeda when they were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. That's a documented fact, not even up for debate.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:53 pm to mizzoukills
There's an answer to all of this. Read Executive Outcomes by Eeben Barlow.*
*If the U.S. and its allies actually want to defeat ISIS.
*If the U.S. and its allies actually want to defeat ISIS.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 4:05 pm to DownSouthJukin
They'll "defeat" ISIS after ISIS has served its purpose.
Also, you know why this particular terrorist group has such an easily identifiable moniker? Because Al Qaeda was too difficult for people to pronounce correctly.
Also, you know why this particular terrorist group has such an easily identifiable moniker? Because Al Qaeda was too difficult for people to pronounce correctly.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 4:59 pm to mizzoukills
We should have turned a blind eye and kept up relations with Assad. He did more to protect Christians and an iron fist is what is needed to keep peace over there. We (the administration) chose the wrong people to support.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 5:03 pm to mizzoukills
Hmm, supply Al-Qaeda to fight ISIS, or, send our own troops in harms way?
I don't care either way, it's the necessity of conflict that we need to pay attention to.
We can't allow ISIS to get any stronger, their message bands people and is atrocious.
Proxy wars work, they're just not pretty and they make pretentious assholes out of people on the internet.
I don't care either way, it's the necessity of conflict that we need to pay attention to.
We can't allow ISIS to get any stronger, their message bands people and is atrocious.
Proxy wars work, they're just not pretty and they make pretentious assholes out of people on the internet.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 5:05 pm to Alahunter
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We should have turned a blind eye and kept up relations with Assad.
Arab Spring
1. Advocate and support shiny happy Muslims to take over from the mean old totalitarians so said Muslims can be our new, democratic buddies
2. Watch in awe as they do
3. Watch country go down in flames
4. Watch Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS take over
5. Wring hands
At least Egypt figured its shite out.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 5:44 pm to mizzoukills
Thanks, Obama
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:02 pm to deltaland
This is WAY over Obama's head.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:13 pm to Stonehog
Who's head does it fall under
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:27 pm to Patton
The MIC and gun runners would be a good start. All of the corporations, lobbyists, and politicians on both the left and right who make hand over fist in weapons deals. But most of all the American people for not recognizing the duopoly for what it is and thinking the President is more powerful than he really is. So they can flip the figure head and do it all over again, just as they did with the bankster bail out money. But hey ya know, if you rather... you can just be one of those idiots who think everything is Obama's fault. The system needs pawns to work.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:30 pm to Patton
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Who's head does it fall under
Semi-global alliances.
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