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TAMU - I heard your coach on SECN sometime recently discussing the run game...
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:45 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:45 am
He indicated that he and Spavital reworked its use within their offense. I'm sure that's got every one of your scholarship defensive players-nevermind Chavis and his staff-perked up.
I'm interested if any of you are aware of the specifics about what they'll try to do differently this year? If they can find any semblance of an effective run game, it could be a panacea to their team as a whole in terms of the ability to possess the ball and keep the defense fresh.
Anyone wanna talk some honest to goodness football today?
I'm interested if any of you are aware of the specifics about what they'll try to do differently this year? If they can find any semblance of an effective run game, it could be a panacea to their team as a whole in terms of the ability to possess the ball and keep the defense fresh.
Anyone wanna talk some honest to goodness football today?
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 8:46 am
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:48 am to GFunk
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Anyone wanna talk some honest to goodness football today?
Nope.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:52 am to GFunk
We brought in Dave Christensen as the OL coach, who was the OC at Mizzou back in the mid-late 2000s. I think going forward we want to incorporate the TE much more, both as a receiver and as a blocker. If you look at our recruiting you see us targeting several of them when this wasn't the case in the past.
Blocking scheme wise I don't honestly know what will change if anything, but I do think they want to have a two RB rotation and stick to it instead of the inconsistent carries guys got last year. I think we will see Carson featured a lot next year similar to the bowl game where we ran in between the tackles much more (and pretty effectively). I also think we may slow the pace down some on offense (something else we did more of late in the year)
Blocking scheme wise I don't honestly know what will change if anything, but I do think they want to have a two RB rotation and stick to it instead of the inconsistent carries guys got last year. I think we will see Carson featured a lot next year similar to the bowl game where we ran in between the tackles much more (and pretty effectively). I also think we may slow the pace down some on offense (something else we did more of late in the year)
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:56 am to GFunk
Aggie Run Game Changes
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The main change is that the team will add several gap scheme runs, which are much different than the popular zone-read concepts used so well by teams like Auburn and Tennessee. Rather than blocking an area of the field as a unit, gap scheme runs institute rules for every lineman. Following those rules helps a lineman determine which defender he’s supposed to block.
Often, gap scheme runs include a pulling guard, some type of lead blocker in the form of an H-back or fullback, and a number of backside blocks by everyone else.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:57 am to GFunk
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I'm interested if any of you are aware of the specifics about what they'll try to do differently this year? If they can find any semblance of an effective run game, it could be a panacea to their team as a whole in terms of the ability to possess the ball and keep the defense fresh.
Anyone wanna talk some honest to goodness football today?
Look no further than the fact that Dave Christensen (former Missouri O/C, Wyoming HC, and Utah O/C) is now the offensive line coach.
-You'll see the interior linemen far more in a 3 point stance this year as opposed to back on their heels like tackles usually are.
-You'll also see more of an emphasis on running the ball right at a box even when the defense knows it's coming.
One major difference you'll see is the type of running back focus.
In 2014, there was no true starting running back. There were three distinct types of runners and no one style worked.
Power (Carson, White)
Pure Speed (Trey Williams)
"Balance" (Brandon Williams)
Only one of the running backs (Carson) even topped the 500 yard mark, and it took him getting 130+ in the bowl to top that.
Compare that to 2015, when Carson (all 6'0 240 lbs of him) is the clear-cut starter, with White (6'1 225) as the backup. Trey Williams left for the draft, Brandon Williams (6'0, 205) was moved to cornerback, Kendall Bussey (5'9 205 lb FR) is the change of pace and it appears that Jay Bradford may have a medical condition that will force him to redshirt. (he is the fastest player on the team by far) Keith Ford (5-star transfer from Oklahoma) isn't eligible to play this year.
What this means is that instead of a "running back by committee", you have a clear #1, clear #2, and a "change of pace" back in the rotation.
The Tight End factor was also mentioned. Last year, there wasn't a player you could truly consider a tight end:
-You had Cameron Clear who was big but poorly skilled
-You had Brandon Alexander who was a converted DL
-You had Ben Compton who was the backup center
-You had Ricky Seals-Jones who, despite being 6'5 250, isn't very physical off the ball
This year, there's Jordan Davis (6'4 255) who is a tight end through and through and can line up at WR but can also block. While it's encouraging that Alexander has dropped from 266 to 238 (at 6'5), I'm not expecting much out of him. I'm not convinced that Seals-Jones can block anywhere near as effectively as Mike Evans either. Frank Iheanacho (at 6'7 230) has the potential, but is still raw.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 9:02 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:57 am to GFunk
Ags everywhere are hoping the answer will be provided by Dave Christensen. He is the OL coach/run game coordinator who had Utah moving the ball well last year. He has a solid resume.
Edit: what CGSC said...
Edit: what CGSC said...
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 8:59 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:15 am to GFunk
Gfunk, huge LSU troll, starts horrible troll thread with obvious hook.
Then asks "does anyone want to talk football"
All of this just to continue his personal Chavis melt
Then asks "does anyone want to talk football"
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Chavis
All of this just to continue his personal Chavis melt
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 9:18 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:38 am to GFunk
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I'm interested if any of you are aware of the specifics about what they'll try to do differently this year? If they can find any semblance of an effective run game, it could be a panacea to their team as a whole in terms of the ability to possess the ball and keep the defense fresh.
My guess would be they will actually try and hand the ball off this year. In 2012 against LSU, Ben Malena had success rushing the ball (12 carries 82 yards, 6.8 per) because it was a good counter punch for what they were doing in the first half. They completely went away from it in the second half and lost (only four carries, one for a touchdown).
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:41 am to GFunk
sumlin is sumlin. he should have emphasized running the ball more when he had the stable of backs he inherited along with arguably the best OL in the country. but he didn't.
is he changing now? maybe and maybe not. ball control and his type of offense may be mutually exclusive.
is he changing now? maybe and maybe not. ball control and his type of offense may be mutually exclusive.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:42 am to GFunk
it will probably resemble what Utah did last year and what Mizzou did from '01-'08.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:21 am to GFunk
It's going to be some two back stuff. Sumlin has run a one back clinic for forever.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 7:52 pm to GFunk
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I'm interested if any of you are aware of the specifics about what they'll try to do differently this year?
they might actually do it
Posted on 7/28/15 at 8:38 pm to GFunk
Dave Christensen was hired as the run game coordinator, has put the interior linemen in a three point stance and moved largely to a pulling zone blacking scheme instead of the traditional hat on a hat man blocking Air Raid run plays.
Normally the air raid runs the ball by spreading the defense out and just out blocking the five players in the box. That works in a league like the Big XII where there arent many LBs who can play man coverage and stuff the run and defensive linemen who can eat up multiple blockers easily. Most teams in lesser conferences are forced to play with 6 DBs against 4 wide sets, or three wide with athletic tight ends. It doesnt work so well when teams can remain in their nickel sets with 6 in the box against four wide because the linebackers can handle it.
Last year we tried blocking six guys with five linemen straight up, which was even worse than it sounds when you consider Bama and Ole Miss and MSU and LSU had linemen that couldnt be blocked one on one. With zone blocking, you can essentially negate the numbers advantage by pulling linemen, TEs and H-backs into the gaps you wish to run in and turning loose the linemen and linebackers away from the play. The way we ran it last year, unblocked players were free to make plays if they simply read the gap correctly.
Normally the air raid runs the ball by spreading the defense out and just out blocking the five players in the box. That works in a league like the Big XII where there arent many LBs who can play man coverage and stuff the run and defensive linemen who can eat up multiple blockers easily. Most teams in lesser conferences are forced to play with 6 DBs against 4 wide sets, or three wide with athletic tight ends. It doesnt work so well when teams can remain in their nickel sets with 6 in the box against four wide because the linebackers can handle it.
Last year we tried blocking six guys with five linemen straight up, which was even worse than it sounds when you consider Bama and Ole Miss and MSU and LSU had linemen that couldnt be blocked one on one. With zone blocking, you can essentially negate the numbers advantage by pulling linemen, TEs and H-backs into the gaps you wish to run in and turning loose the linemen and linebackers away from the play. The way we ran it last year, unblocked players were free to make plays if they simply read the gap correctly.
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