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re: Some Truths about SLAVERY

Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:36 pm to
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Ya know that saying "God helps those who help themselves"?



the bible also says Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven, Blessed are those who mourn: for they will be comforted. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they will be filled. Woe onto you who are rich, for you have already received your comfort. Woe onto you who are well fed now, for you will go hungry. Woe onto you who laugh now, for you will mourn and weep.



So if you want to quote the bible, I'm willing to concede black people as a whole need to get off their arse and get their shite together if you're willing to admit all white people are going to hell?


The bible also says it will be easier for a camel to thread the eye of a needle than it would be for a rich man to get into heaven, do you believe all rich people are going to hell? Do you believe all slaveholders are going to hell?


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Maybe people would be more sympathetic to the black plight if their community wasn't so absolutely ravaged by their own.




The avg white person, at least the avg white person on this forum lol, doesn't understand the issue of slavery as it exists today.

For all intents and purposes I don't have a problem with people owning slaves when they did. It's what everyone did at the time, it sucks, but I, nor do most people look at white people as evil because of something that happened 150-550 years ago.


The problem is more with this reconstitutionist chic esqe attitude that "oh if only black people got it together" they ravage their own.


For all intents and purposes, the african american soceity as we know it today has been around for all of 150 years. That's what...5 generations. When put in context, I'm willing to bet that african Americans have made more progress as a race / thirteenth than your ancestors did in their first 150 years of settlement. Charlemagne was the first king of what we consider today to be germananic people in the mid 700's and it took another 700 years for someone else in germany to figure out how to mass produce books. It took someone else around another 100 years give or take for them to get the nerve to post a note on a church which marked the modernizing of the current day church and 90% of the people couldn't fricking read it lol.



In 150 years afrian americans have ween from literally 2nd class citizens to having a man be the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.



White privilege has become gotcha politics. It's not getting the better seat at a restaurant or getting the girl at the bar, it's not even the ability to not be harassed by the police. White privilege is the massive head start that european americans in this country and in general have been given over other races, namely african americans and native americans.


My mother, 51 years old, is the first person in my entire families entire fricking history, from the time someone in Africa decided to do whatever they were doing, until the time my great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother was brought over here as a slave, until now that anyone in the family has ever received any form of higher education. My mother is the first person in my family to basically escape the "ghetto" and my grandmother had to work 3 jobs her entire life to make that happen. I don't have uncles that went to college, i don't have cousins that went to college I don't have great aunts whose dads left them with a business, I don't have a great uncle who was a college professor somewhere, my mother got a masters degree in communications, her mom worked at a boiling alley, a gas station and as a maid for a rich elderly white woman her entire life, becuase that's the only job a 25 year old black woman could get in the south in 1960. Her mother was beaten to the point of near death and gangraped by a bunch of redneck racists when she was tryin gto walk home from work one day right after she had my grandmother and was never able to work again a day in her life as she was left mute / deaf. Her mother was a sharecropper, and her mother was a slave.


And as strict as my grandmother was on my mom and my aunt growing up, they both were bright and smart but only one of them could go to college becuase she could only afford to help one, and my mom was a year older. My aunt is a hair dresser, a damn good one, but if she were born in a different family of a different color she'd be a marketing director somewhere or something. Even then, she made sure her daughters would grow up and do something and both are in the Army.


5 fricking generations and you act like black people are lazy, stupid, unintelligent, belligerent, greedy and helpless. It's sickening. That's white privilege. The fact that you don't even understand the advantages that you have been given in life.



5 generations. The first generation you're literally just free, you can't get a job no where you have nothing, no saving, and you can't read. The 2nd generation you are literally a second class citizen, you're not allowed to vote, your "schools" consist of one bedroom shacks taught by people who basically feel shitty for you and give you a half arse education, and that's if you feel safe walking to school or not helping out trying to just help the family survive, and even if you do get that education back in the what, 1910's-20's where the frick are you going to go to college at? If you go to college where are you going to get a decent job at? Then they have kids in the 30's-40's who are relegated to outstanding jobs such as dishwashing, the only half decent job a person could get in the 40's if you were black was either a military job where you were probably going to be the first motherfricker off the ship to get shot at lol, or at some manufacturing plant helping make shite for the war where you even still relegated to the worst jobs they had and paid less.


They have kids who are born in the 50's and 60's, the first African Americans who truly have a chance at making some shite out of their lives, and you sit here puffing your fricking chest out because every fricking african american family just becuase now we have civil rights, is not making bank, is not running shite and is not as educated as your white breathen. You STILL have to pay for school. No one on my father's side of my family is stupid but no one could pay for school. How the frick you go pay for college education on a dishwasher's / house cleaner's salary? My dad's family tried to do the same thing that my gradmom did and send my oldest uncle to college but he died of sickle cell before he could get the chance to go.


Even in 5 generations, African americans as a whole have made outstanding progress all things considered. People in this thread will bitch about 'handouts' when people in your fricking family have been handing you shite your entire life.


I'll never and never have taken a dime of government money for anything I'm too smart and work too hard. But frick all this if only black people worked harder, why can't be just like white people noise. Where the frick was YOUR family 5 generations into your families existence?
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:44 pm to
All of that is well and good but my privileged white arse is one generation from a sharecropper. My grandfather was a sharecropper with a 3rd grade education and when he lost the little place he had to farm for shares in the depression he worked three jobs until he could afford to buy a run down gas station all while raising 3 kids and feeding them and my grandma. So forgive me if I don't agree with you.
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:50 am to
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my great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother


Your great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandmother should be congratulated on being one of the first outside settlers of the Americas.
Posted by AmericusDawg
Member since Oct 2012
8577 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:57 am to
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Where the frick was YOUR family 5 generations into your families existence?


Pissing excellence
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9693 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:39 am to
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Where the frick was YOUR family 5 generations into your families existence?


In fricking Ireland.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15925 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:45 am to
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Where the frick was YOUR family 5 generations into your families existence?


Technically, in Africa, I guess? That's where the first ancestors of the Homo Genus originated. So, if you really want to get technical about it, we're all African-Americans.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 7:46 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:48 am to
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I don't have uncles that went to college, i don't have cousins that went to college

That's no one's fault but their own.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
4427 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:52 am to
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How the frick you go pay for college education on a dishwasher's / house cleaner's salary?


Your grandfather should have grown some nuts and joined the military like both of mine did.

My family never had money and grew up working in the fields with the slaves in north MS. If you'd seen the picture of my great grandfathers "house" you'd understand. They weren't "given" great jobs because they were white, they worked their asses off and risked their lives to make opportunities for their families.
Posted by SouthMSReb
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:53 am to
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This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 8:56 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:00 am to
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My mother, 51 years old, is the first person in my entire families entire fricking history,

Guess what, my parents were the first ones to go to college on both sides of my family as well. I was the first person in my whole family to go to a school larger than AUM or USA.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:06 am to
My grandmother grew up on a sharecropper farm.

I was the first person in my WHOLE family to go to college. My brothers did the same. Our family hardly had 2 nickles to rub together. So we worked, earned scholarships, joined the military, took out loans, etc, to each pay for tuition and living expenses ourselves.

What we didn't do was waste time complaining about the reasons others had more or were doing better than us. We just worked hard to improve our situations.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 10:24 am
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