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College Football Top 25, Ranked by Academics (Time Magazine)

Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:54 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:54 pm
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Rankings (Academically - only applied towards teams in the Top 25 of the playoff poll):
#1 TCU
#2 UCLA
#3 Alabama
#4 Clemson
#5 Arizona St
#6 Ohio St
#7 Georgia
#8 Utah
#9 Arizona
#10 KSU
#11 Auburn
#12 Louisville
#13 Mississippi State
#14 Oregon
#15 Mizzou
#16 Baylor
#17 Georgia Tech
#18 LSU
#19 Michigan State
#20 Wisconsin
#21 Minnesota
#22 Florida State
#23 Boise St
#24 Ole Miss
#25 USC

Methodology used:

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To compile the rankings, New America started with each school’s football graduation success rate (GSR). The GSR is an NCAA metric that, unlike the federal graduation rate, doesn’t penalize schools for having players who transfer or leave for the pros–as long as those players depart in good academic standing. The higher the school’s graduation success rate, the higher they start out in New America’s rankings.

But New America penalized schools for graduating football players at different rates than the overall male student body at the school. To compare players to students, New America relied on federal rates, since there’s no GSR for the general population. The bigger the discrepancy, the harsher the penalty. It’s important to note that even if a school graduated football players at higher rates than the overall male student population — four schools in the top 25, TCU, Arizona State, Arizona, and Boise State, did so — the difference was counted as a penalty. Why? “We were not going to reward schools with really low overall graduation rates,” says Holt. In fact, schools got an added bonus for having high overall rates.

TCU, for example, has a 77% federal graduation rate for football players, and a 73% federal graduation rate for all male students. This four point difference is relatively minor. But Boise St. has a 70% football graduation rate, and a 31% graduation rate for all the male students. The low overall rate hurts the school tremendously in these rankings: despite a strong 85% graduation success rate for football players, Boise State fell to 24th in these rankings.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:55 pm to
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#3 Alabama


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#17 Georgia Tech


Posted by GIbson05
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 1:57 pm to
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#3 Alabama

Kicking arse on the field and in the classroom.
Posted by Phat Phil
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:01 pm to
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#3 Alabama

Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:01 pm to
Can't take TCU seriously knowing goldennugget went there
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:07 pm to
How is GT #17 when they're a top 10 public in the USNWR and an AAU member?
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:14 pm to
This is like using acceptance rate to say that one school is better than the other.
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:16 pm to
I thought B1G fans were the only ones that got on the academic rah rah talk wagon. No one gives a frick about these shite rankings...
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:40 pm to
The methodology for the rankings is stupid. Graduation rates for football players has nothing to do with the quality of the academics offered at the school. If anything a high graduation rate means the school is good at steering athletes towards easy majors and has a ton of "tutors" to do their work.
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 3:47 pm to
I feel like this thread title is a bit misleading.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 8:07 pm to
If you were to rank the top 25 in terms of ACTUAL academics, it would look like this:

1. UCLA
2. USC
3. Georgia Tech
4. Michigan State
5. Wisconsin
6. Georgia
7. Ohio State
8. Clemson
9. Minnesota
10. Missouri
11. Alabama
12. Auburn
13. Baylor
14. TCU
15. Utah
16. Florida State
17. Oregon
18. LSU
19. Arizona
20. Arizona State
21. Kansas State
22. Ole Miss
23. Mississippi State
24. Louisville
25. Boise State
This post was edited on 12/19/14 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Gary Busey
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:25 pm to
Harvard of the south
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 9:27 pm to
I hate these polls - you can always find one that favors your school over another.

Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/19/14 at 10:58 pm to
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#17 Georgia Tech


Posted by nc14
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:04 am to
Reading is not in the skillset of posters here. Thus substantiating their schools' ranking.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:29 am to
These are somewhat important rankings IMO.

It's not like the majority of football players are enrolled in the Engineering college at GTech. The idea of college athletics is to get kids educated while they play sports. Graduating players is important. Not graduating players is bad.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:46 am to
This "study" actually has nothing to do with academics, just football graduation rates.
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by lefty08
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:59 am to
Yeah, stopped reading at academics and bama #3
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 3:51 pm to
So Alabama is now a better academic school than ga tech?

fricking lulz
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 3:53 pm to
Bama is very weak academically.

There was an article a few years ago measuring grade inflation at Universities and Bama was pretty high on the list.

If you fail out of bama, you're probably less intelligent than your average cat turd.
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