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re: Second person in the car with Gurley lawyers up

Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:23 pm to
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If I helped entrap a amateur athlete I would lawyer up as well..


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He's not assuming that at all


That reads like he is assuming they entrapped him.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:27 pm to
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What illegal activity do you think was committed?


They are doing everything to deflect. Gurley signs autographs. Investigation follows to look into whether or not he got paid because of large suspicious amounts of items autographed for sale. People who have been named in the investigation lawyers up. Now the puppies are using words like extorted, entrapment, and blackmail to make it look like Gurley is innocent.

Before any pup replies I am taking those words from UGA posters.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:28 pm to
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that they also were selling large lots of autographed items from high profile FSU and Alabama Players among others.


I missed the news about UA in the investigation now. Can you link the story and yes I am being serious because I had yet to see our name involved.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:37 pm to
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Second person in the car with Gurley lawyers up quote: What illegal activity do you think was committed? They are doing everything to deflect. Gurley signs autographs. Investigation follows to look into whether or not he got paid because of large suspicious amounts of items autographed for sale. People who have been named in the investigation lawyers up. Now the puppies are using words like extorted, entrapment, and blackmail to make it look like Gurley is innocent. Before any pup replies I am taking those words from UGA posters.


Do you giggle and think you are laying down the big get when you refer to UGA grads and fans as pups?
Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:40 pm to
Sensitive bunch of bitches here I see.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12416 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:47 pm to
Not sensitive at all. I just want to know if in your world you feel your triteness is actually witty.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:54 pm to
I was actually being neither since I always call UGA fans pups. I am just laughing because for the first time ever on this site someone got their jimmies rustled over it.

And laughing because out of everything in this thread that was focused on. But hey if it makes you happy Gurley is innocent and he was coerced against his will to sign his autograph so many times and was blackmailed and extorted after the fact in an attempt to derail UGA's season while defaming such an outstanding citizen of the almighty DAWG nation.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:58 pm to
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Under GA law, if they claim to have paid Gurley, they are incriminating themselves and exposing themselves to fines, jail time, and potential civil action from Gurley and the University.
Really? What law is that? (not doubting you, just never heard of it). TIA


yea Nino they said that on 680 the other day, somebody looked it up I guess, apparently Ga the state of, has had this come up and decided to do something about it. Since the dealer in question was in the state of Ga, it sounds like his shiny butthole might be in jeopardy, ,,
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12416 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:03 pm to
My jimmies are not rustled at all. Please don't give yourself credit where it is not due. I just wanted to understand how someone with an IQ above 90 would think they were being witty by using the term pups. Pretty sure I got my answer.


The title of the thread was referring to the second dealer retaining a criminal attorney. I offered reasons as to why they may have felt the need to do so. Beyond that, I had a little fun at your expense.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:13 pm to
Your assumptions are off base because it was neither an attempt to be witty nor a dig at UGA posters and that should be your answer not your assumption of what you think I was implying. But please continue on since my answer does not suffice and unless that credit comes with some financial gain from it I do not desire.

In regards to the thread I chimed in regarding how the people outside of Gurley that are involved could be charged under a specific Act that is being used in other states stemming from this issue. And at the same time found it funny that some posters seemed determined to make Gurley look like the victim. I understand the hope by fans that their star athlete would be spared and I personally think they all should be paid for their likeness. If they have done enough on the field to garner the attention of fans who want their autograph I feel they deserve to get paid for it.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12416 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:14 pm to
Wait, are you gonna totally burn me with a u mad gif?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:17 pm to
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quote: If I helped entrap a amateur athlete I would lawyer up as well..

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That reads like he is assuming they entrapped him.

He could be "entrapped" in that he was encouraged to break eligibility rules and the snitched on, and still have done something wrong.

Entrapment and wrongdoing on Gurley's part aren't mutually exclusive.
Posted by Bud Davis
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2013
429 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:18 pm to
You're fairly dense aren't you? No one is deflecting. Everyone agrees that Gurley is culpable.

It's a fascinating case because of the potential for criminal charges being brought or a civil suit being filed.

There is a reason that these guys hired attorneys. Allen's attorney is a well known criminal defense attorney that has worked several high profile criminal cases.

What makes this so interesting is that for the first time, the state of Georgia could conceivably hold one of these idiots liable for enticing a student athlete.

The ramifications could be huge for amateur athletes.

The end game for UGA, and the NCAA imo, is that these two are terrified that they will be held accountable for their actions. If you ask me, UGA has let it be know that they will go after these guys if they continue to pursue this, thus the attorneys.

Extortion is not unlikely in this case. He could have told Gurley that if he didn't sign more, or sign only for him, then he would release this information, thus the extortion. If I take a picture of you in a compromising position, and tell you you have to do something that I want, or I release the picture of you to the media, that would constitute extortion.

Ultimately, who knows if that happened, but based on these guys lawyering up(one with a famous criminal defense attorney),it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.

In summation, for those dim-witted that insist on interjecting inane comments, TODD GURLEY IS COMPLICIT IN THIS. I, NOR ANYONE THAT I HAVE SEEN, HAS EXPRESSED HIS INNOCENCE. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS DRIVEL. THERE IS NO DEFLECTION.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12416 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:24 pm to
bud, you better watch the frick out... One of these badass motherfrickers is gonna "he mad" gif you and the thread will be dead...
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11846 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:28 pm to


Nah not at all.
Posted by Bud Davis
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2013
429 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:31 pm to
Enticement is the more appropriate term here, not entrapment. It's matter of semantics, but the gist remains the same. If someone entices a college athlete to break the rules, they can be held liable, per the Georgia statute.

As I read it, if it results in NCAA punishment, or self imposed punishment, that offending party can be sued for said enticement. IMO, the fact that UGA has already self imposed a penalty in the form of suspending Gurley, they would have a case against Allen if they so chose. All parties involved have a vested interest in ending this right now if you ask me. The NCAA would open up Pandora's box with this if they go after Gurley
too hard. Testimony would implicate Cooper, Mariota, Gurley, and Winston. The general public already thinks it's ridiculous.

UGA loses Gurley if all the details come out more than likely.

Allen and Smith face civil suits and possible criminal charges.

All these factors make for an interesting situation.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:34 pm to
You guys do realize his attorney does more than just criminal don't you?

These theories are getting pretty out there
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:35 pm to
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IMO, the fact that UGA has already self imposed a penalty in the form of suspending Gurley, they would have a case against Allen if they so chose.




Oh my.
Posted by jrljr
Member since Aug 2012
4074 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:38 pm to
Wow, I didn't know that Todd Gurley was Soooo naïve and vulnerable. But you guys want Jameis shot for the same offense. Maybe not you personally, but the radio in ATL sounds like an episode of Oprah! With all the victimization, and crying about fairness...

You do realize that Gurley was paid and Cam wasn't don't you?
Posted by Bud Davis
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2013
429 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:38 pm to
Fully expect it. In a way, they would be right. I am mad. I'm mad that there are so many out there that have zero reading comprehension skills or the ability to understand basic concepts.

Sometimes I weep for the future.

I understand some people have a bias against UGA, but let's face it, we all have biases. My real problem is with people that just can't grasp simple concepts.

I am still amazed at the number of people that continue to say that we need to stop saying Gurley is innocent. Like they say, you can't fix stupid.
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