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re: Second person in the car with Gurley lawyers up

Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:37 pm to
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If I helped entrap a amateur athlete I would lawyer up as well...


You assume Gurley did nothing wrong. Why are puppies so determined to make Gurley and UGA look like the victims. He either got paid for his autographs or he did not. If he accepted money he understood what could happen. So he could care less about UGA in the end and should be held accountable if he received money.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86519 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Why are puppies so determined to make Gurley and UGA look like the victims


us "puppies" aren't. Obviously this entire situation starts with todd, we all know that. But the end result of everything has to do with other factors, and those are the factors we're discussing.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25879 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:44 pm to
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You assume Gurley did nothing wrong

He's not assuming that at all
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Who did he extort?


I am not saying anyone was... Just wondering what would happen if someone asked for money from a person or organization in return for not going public with information that could be deemed incriminating by the law of the land or the law of an amateur sports organization.


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Paying taxes on what exactly?


On a semi lucrative money making enterprise which up to this point was an unreported cash business.
Posted by Killean
Port Charlotte, FL
Member since Nov 2010
4669 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:48 pm to
Gurley is likely the one with tax issues, not the collectibles guy. He probably reports it all
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:51 pm to
I still don't get the entrapment part. Was the dealer a cop?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29701 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:52 pm to
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Gurley is likely the one with tax issues, not the collectibles guy. He probably reports it all


yeah

sure he reports it all...

as for TGII - no need to worry about any tax liability since we are looking at just under $400 (I hope)
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:54 pm to
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I still don't get the entrapment part.


Yeah, that makes no sense. It also makes no sense that these dealers would lawyer up if they didn't pay Gurley. Either way, it looks like Gurley received benefits from more than one memorabilia dealer. It's kind of hard to spin that.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:58 pm to
What is the word for coercing a person to do illegal activity by threatening to reveal the persons previous illegal activities?

What is the word for asking for money in return for not revealing ones misgivings?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28294 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:00 pm to
So your stance is these two guys tried to blackmail Gurley because they paid him for his signature? I was wrong, leghumpers will try to spin this.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:05 pm to
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What is the word for coercing a person to do illegal activity by threatening to reveal the persons previous illegal activities?


since none of this happened, Im not sure why its relevant

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What is the word for asking for money in return for not revealing ones misgivings?


see above
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:05 pm to
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What is the word for coercing a person to do illegal activity by threatening to reveal the persons previous illegal activities?


Blackmail. But the one being blackmailed is still guilty.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:06 pm to
I personally believe like most issues of the recent past UGA will skate on this but Gurley might be the fall guy. Might not? I don't know.

Anyone who thinks UGA wants to get in any lawsuit much less a civil one where people can be compelled to testify and records will be available for the public…has lost their mind.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:11 pm to
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I personally believe like most issues of the recent past UGA will skate on this but Gurley might be the fall guy. Might not? I don't know.


UGA didnt do anything wrong, as we know of right now. Unless they actually knew everything prior to the Vandy game(Which the memorabilia dealer said they knew something about it, friday before) and still played him. They ruled him ineligible and havent played him. They are in the clear at this point, except for not being able to have Gurley on the field

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Anyone who thinks UGA wants to get in any lawsuit much less a civil one where people can be compelled to testify and records will be available for the public…has lost their mind.


UGA cant use the law unless they get sanctioned(Not gurley), if they get sanctioned it will be because they knowing played him while ineligible, therefore losing a lot of the ground in said lawsuit
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:13 pm to
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MrAUTigers Second person in the car with Gurley lawyers up So your stance is these two guys tried to blackmail Gurley because they paid him for his signature? I was wrong, leghumpers will try to spin this.


I do not recall stating that... I do recall you not understanding the difference between entrapment and blackmail. What we do know is that two of the dealers involved have hired Attorneys who specialize in a Criminal Law, that they also were selling large lots of autographed items from high profile FSU and Alabama Players among others. We also know that you think that referring to UGA fans and Grads as "Leghumpers" is a witty get... And that tells me a lot...
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:16 pm to
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since none of this happened, Im not sure why its relevant


How would you know this?
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

quote:
I personally believe like most issues of the recent past UGA will skate on this but Gurley might be the fall guy. Might not? I don't know.


UGA didnt do anything wrong, as we know of right now. Unless they actually knew everything prior to the Vandy game(Which the memorabilia dealer said they knew something about it, friday before) and still played him. They ruled him ineligible and havent played him. They are in the clear at this point, except for not being able to have Gurley on the field


Agreed my statement was in general and not clear.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:18 pm to
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How would you know this?


What illegal activity do you think was committed?


Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:18 pm to
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Blackmail. But the one being blackmailed is still guilty.


What did I state to imply there was not possible guilt from either party?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:22 pm to
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What illegal activity do you think was committed?


I proposed activities related to this situation that could move it from a NCAA and possible Civil issue to a Criminal one... Speculating based on the reasoning behind the dealers hiring Criminal Attorneys.
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