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Scott-Wesley, Mitchell, Rumph (lol)
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:25 pm
We see how tentative and hesitant Marshall is on his runs, it's going to be the same deal for these guys coming up. Everyone is asking when they're going to be back but they aren't going to be in game shape and they're going to be rusty for a long time. We may have already lost the crucial game before these guys are back in playing shape, so I think we need to get McKenzie, Williams and Tibbs all the reps we can this weekend. One of those guys has to step up.
I'm swearing off Rumph at the moment, but I could foresee him having a monster game at the right moment for Auburn or something. We need to focus on the guys we have and make sure to get them the reps we need.
I think Tony Ball needs to let these guys loose, if we have an athlete that can catch and run, then we need to put them out there. i think too often ball makes these guys tentative with the perfection he demands. frick route running, if we have a guy who can go out there and be a gamer, we need them to step up.
I'm swearing off Rumph at the moment, but I could foresee him having a monster game at the right moment for Auburn or something. We need to focus on the guys we have and make sure to get them the reps we need.
I think Tony Ball needs to let these guys loose, if we have an athlete that can catch and run, then we need to put them out there. i think too often ball makes these guys tentative with the perfection he demands. frick route running, if we have a guy who can go out there and be a gamer, we need them to step up.
This post was edited on 9/22/14 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 9/22/14 at 10:27 pm to jodeaux
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frick route running
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:56 am to jodeaux
Gurley hasn't caught much this year. I think he might even be negative.
He was the #3 receiver last year.
I was hoping for 1000/1000 season from him this year.
He was the #3 receiver last year.
I was hoping for 1000/1000 season from him this year.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:57 am to deeprig9
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I was hoping for 1000/1000 season from him this year.
Season is still young. Patience, grasshopper.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:02 am to Spaceman Spiff
He's not going to have 100 yds receiving every game for the rest of the year.
It was conceivable in preseason, maybe he averages 71 per game...
With with zero yards through 3 games, I just don't think it's possible now.
It was conceivable in preseason, maybe he averages 71 per game...
With with zero yards through 3 games, I just don't think it's possible now.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:29 am to deeprig9
Yep. Its all done for on that end. He can just get what he gets.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:09 am to Spaceman Spiff
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I think Tony Ball needs to let these guys loose, if we have an athlete that can catch and run, then we need to put them out there. i think too often ball makes these guys tentative with the perfection he demands. frick route running, if we have a guy who can go out there and be a gamer, we need them to step up.
Yeah it's really easy to say this, but so much of our offense is about run blocking and blocking on screens (watch Bennett and Conley on those plays). But it may not hurt to toss some wildcards in on some deep plays..
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:17 am to deeprig9
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I was hoping for 1000/1000 season from him this year.
He might be able to run on water....but he ain't immortal. The odds of TG pulling this off against SEC caliber defenses is slim to none.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:18 am to jodeaux
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I think Tony Ball needs to let these guys loose, if we have an athlete that can catch and run, then we need to put them out there.
We have those athletes. The problem is that our guys are going up against just as good, if not better athletes in our opponents DBs. You've got to know how to run a good route, how to throw a block downfield, and how to time your route with your QB to turn on the jets at at the exact moment so that the DB can't pick up on where the pass is going and when. Only guys like AJ Green get to bypass some of those pre reqs and that's because AJ was and is a flat out better athlete than most of the human beings on earth. He could finesse you to death with natural ability. Mitchell is much the same way when healthy. The rest of the receivers aren't. Guys like Bennett and Conley, though, are very intelligent, fearless, and do all the technical stuff well so they make up for those relative deficits. If a receiver isn't out there, it's because he either isn't a good enough athlete to beat a similarly athletic DB in practice on talent alone and because he hasn't proven he has an edge over that DB in intelligence and technique. Furthermore, you can't just stick a receiver out there in a game situation if you're not sure he can do it just yet. So much of Receiving is dependent on precision timing and not giving away the play or ball location to the DB. An inexperienced or underprepared receiver is going to give that pertinent info away to a good SEC DB and get the ball picked.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 8:22 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:19 am to DaveyDownerDawg
Not unless he starts busting 70 and 80 yard runs off of swing passes (entirely possible, but probably not going to happen every game).
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:29 am to jodeaux
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Scott-Wesley, Mitchell, Rumph (lol)
We often seem to have too many highly rated yet unproductive players on our roster. This gets back to my mantra that our cumulative top 10 recruiting rankings belie the fact that we aren't fielding a top 10 team. Any one of these players could have made the difference in the SC game.....
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:39 am to davesdawgs
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We often seem to have too many highly rated yet unproductive players on our roster. This gets back to my mantra that our cumulative top 10 recruiting rankings belie the fact that we aren't fielding a top 10 team. Any one of these players could have made the difference in the SC game.....
The problem with that theory is that other schools have attrition and recruiting busts too.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:43 am to jodeaux
quote:I understand your passion but there's a reason why WRs need to run good, crips routes.
I think Tony Ball needs to let these guys loose, if we have an athlete that can catch and run, then we need to put them out there. i think too often ball makes these guys tentative with the perfection he demands. frick route running, if we have a guy who can go out there and be a gamer, we need them to step up.
It's important that the WRs are predictable so that the QB knows where and when to throw the ball.
Also, a clean route minimizes the ability of the defenders to actually defend the ball while maximizing the success of the throw (assuming the ball is placed where it needs to be).
"Ballers" and "gamers" are good, but they still need to have good technique and run good routes. Not doing so will result is more busted plays, more confusion and bad decisions for the QB, and potentially greater likelihood that the defense will successfully stop the play (or even create a TO).
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:49 am to Crowknowsbest
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The problem with that theory is that other schools have attrition and recruiting busts too.
While true, it would seem that our toughest competition either have more depth than we do or simply don't have as much attrition and/or are maintaining full rosters by filling the vacant spots. Regardless, Alabama, Auburn and LSU have fielded championship teams while we have not.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:56 am to davesdawgs
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While true, it would seem that our toughest competition either have more depth than we do or simply don't have as much attrition and/or are maintaining full rosters by filling the vacant spots. Regardless, Alabama, Auburn and LSU have fielded championship teams while we have not.
They have signed more players. Richt is just now starting to figure out that we can sign over the 85 limit and need to in order to maintain depth.
2012 was a wake up call imo
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:04 am to Crowknowsbest
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They have signed more players. Richt is just now starting to figure out that we can sign over the 85 limit and need to in order to maintain depth.
2012 was a wake up call imo
Yep, I forget; we were down what? like 15 scholarship players out of a possible 85. And any one of those 15 non-existent players might have made a difference in a super close SECCG with Alabama that season.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:09 am to davesdawgs
We were down to like 68. It was actually ridiculous how good that team was with that self-imposed handicap.
When you sign less players, each loss or bust is more impactful, relatively. It shrinks your margin of error. That is why our attrition seems worse, imo.
When you sign less players, each loss or bust is more impactful, relatively. It shrinks your margin of error. That is why our attrition seems worse, imo.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:10 am to Crowknowsbest
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When you sign less players, each loss or bust is more impactful, relatively. It shrinks your margin of error. That is why our attrition seems worse, imo.
Valid
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:14 am to davesdawgs
Per Richt: they all out this game.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:49 pm to jodeaux
Obviously I know Keith Marshall is injured again, but not serious. I wonder if they ever approached him about filling in at slot receiver for a few plays. With our logjam at running back, his lack of ability to break tackles, and our injuries at ride receiver, it might be an idea?
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