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re: Gamecocks shut down aggie's Midnight Fail: "mug down" tradition forgotten

Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:14 pm to
80884 just owned yall with facts
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145274 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:16 pm to
Not really
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9060 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:21 pm to
He shut down every counter argument yall had with evidence supporting his claim. I'd say thats a win for him
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:29 pm to
Doesnt matter. Moved on.
Posted by Pilgrim Shadow
Member since Nov 2012
86 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:41 pm to
Did you even look at his evidence? It does not support his claims. The first article explains that the reason A&M left the Big12 was lack of exposure, and the second one is bleacher report. His second claim does not refute anything, and his third completely misses the point. I don't even know why he thinks the last claim is any kind of "gotcha." Byrne turned down a chance to join the longhorns in what would have been a regional network showcasing the two schools. Instead, we are now part of a nationwide network that exposes our brand along with the other SEC schools.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:41 pm to
Am I missing where in that scout article it mentions unequal revenue sharing? it talks about wanting to grow the brand to generate more revenue and donations, which it definitely has.

Don't have time to go through the rest of this stuff but I've seen many things posted over the past couple years supporting what we have said. Who cares, it's over.

actually, nevermind, this is your basis for it...bleacher report with no one quoted

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Texas A&M quickly decided that unequal revenue distribution would continue to cause instability in the conference
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
463 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:42 pm to
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lol...
Nobody said anything huh?

Are you sure about that?


A broken link and a link to Bleacher Report. Gotcha. Someone blamed unequal revenue sharing on Bleacher Report.

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Oh, so now the NCAA said we couldn't have High School games on the LHN now? lol...really? The Big 12 including Texas agreed to not show High School football and then the NCAA stated AFTER that no HS football would be shown on any school affiliated networks.


Agreed. The NCAA said you couldn't show high school games on the LHN. Glad we agree.

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We were offered partial ownership, in passing, and it never went anywhere. ESPN decided to do the LHN at some point after. Again...LOL!


You'll forgive me if I don't take DeLoss Dodds at his word.
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Texas A&M could have been a partner with Texas in a lucrative television network but wasn't interested in joining the Longhorns when the idea was hatched, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said Thursday. Dodds told The Associated Press he first met with Texas A&M athletic director Bill Byrne about the idea of an Aggies-Longhorns network about four years ago but Byrne didn't seem interested. At the time, the Longhorns weren't sure they could carry a network on their own. Byrne tried to re-open discussions about a year ago, but by then it was too late, Dodds said.


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Keep making up history aggy...you guys are so good at it. dumbass

Then you link to an article about rejecting the PAC... That was the first time round. Once we decided to stay in the BigWhatever

I'm talking about the second time, when y'all started shopping yourself around again.

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The University of Texas on Monday said it was staying in the Big 12, followed moments later by pledges from Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas A&M to remain in a league that had seemed to be falling apart last week when Nebraska (Big Ten) and Colorado (Pac-10) decided to leave over the next two years. The Texas announcement came shortly after Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott confirmed that Texas had declined an invitation to become the 12th member of his conference.


I'm talking about the second flirtation,
Pac-12 Will Not Expand, Texas' LHN May Have Been A Deal-Breaker For Scott

Larry Scott: Texas won't join Pac-12
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The Pac-12's desire to make its own network -- and in the process prevent the creation of the Longhorn Network -- was a factor that kept Texas in the Big 12. Big 12 blog Big 12 ESPN.com's Jake Trotter and Brandon Chatmon write about all things involving the Big 12 in the conference blog. More: • Blog network: College Football Nation And now, with the Pac-12 set to make an official announcement later Wednesday about its network, Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott told the Austin American-Statesman that it all but eliminates the possibility of future membership for the Longhorns. "I think you could certainly imply that, with the news that we're going to announce tonight," Scott told the newspaper. "The Longhorn Network would be certainly a huge impediment." Scott reiterated his recent comments that future expansion was coming, but it's unlikely now that Texas would be a part of it.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 2:16 pm
Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:46 pm to
Didn't your first article contradict your last article?

From the first article..

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There were other spats over the course of 15 years, but Nebraska finally had enough of Texas' perceived heavy-handed tactics and in 2010 bolted to the Big Ten while Texas planned to take OU, OSU, Texas Tech, Colorado, and Texas A&M to form the PAC-16.


You also say:

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The Big 12 including Texas agreed to not show High School football and then the NCAA stated AFTER that no HS football would be shown on any school affiliated networks.


But in an article you linked it says:


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The NCAA has already banned school-affiliated networks from showing high school games, saying they would be an unfair recruiting advantage.

The Big 12 Board of Directors on Thursday banned the use of highlights from prep games, though scores, standings and game statistics will still be allowed if approved by the NCAA.


I'm kind of wondering if you even read some of the articles you linked?

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Dodds told The Associated Press he first met with Texas A&M athletic director Bill Byrne about the idea of an Aggies-Longhorns network about four years ago but Byrne didn't seem interested. At the time, the Longhorns weren't sure they could carry a network on their own. (Should have stuck with that conclusion).



This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:52 pm to
So? The fact that they would do it just shows what it was like having to deal with them and the conference. We like the SEC better, all that matters.
Posted by 80884
Austin
Member since Aug 2014
127 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 1:58 pm to
If enough time goes by...I guess your made up history will come true, just like the made up championships on the side of your stadium. It's funny how for almost 2 years one of the main excuses of leaving the Big 12 was because of unequal revenue sharing and you used that as a catalyst to try to get the rest of the Big 12 to turn against us, but now it never existed. Riiiiight...

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Agreed. The NCAA said you couldn't show high school games on the LHN. Glad we agree.


You're kind of an idiot...the NCAA stepped in after the Big 12 made the rule so no other team affiliated network could add HS football to their network. To be fair to Texas...not to slap them with some rule because crybaby aggy ran to them. I see you still haven't addressed the 7on7 championship you guys hold every year...I'm sure the SEC will pick up on that eventually.

Oh...and congratulations on linking an article about the PAC-12 saying that they were not taking any more schools almost 2 years after the fact that Texas said no to them as your proof that they turned down Texas. BRILLIANT retort farmer!!! In no part of that article does it say that Texas asked to be in the conference...because they had already turned it down and you guys were already on the way to the SEC.

Should we now discuss how your president flat out lied to the conference by pledging loyalty to it after Texas turned down the PAC offer and then bolted the next season?

Edit: By the way, your links are broken as well, but I know how to internet
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96051 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:00 pm to
i didnt know yall did this every road game. I don't think it's really a good idea but whatever. Where did yall do it last year in BR? I never remember hearing about it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111668 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:02 pm to
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Should we now discuss how your president flat out lied to the conference by pledging loyalty to it after Texas turned down the PAC offer and then bolted the next season?

Is this a fricking Longhorn fan on the SEC rant trying to rewrite history and chastise others for being dishonest in their conference dealings? Of course it is.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145274 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:04 pm to
And cherry picking shite to fit his narrative? Yep
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145274 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:04 pm to
I thought it happened in the french quarter
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96051 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:06 pm to
oh ok. i just dont remember hearing about it at all so i was curious.
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
463 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:19 pm to
Fixed my broken link in the previous response.

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f enough time goes by...I guess your made up history will come true, just like the made up championships on the side of your stadium. It's funny how for almost 2 years one of the main excuses of leaving the Big 12 was because of unequal revenue sharing and you used that as a catalyst to try to get the rest of the Big 12 to turn against us, but now it never existed. Riiiiight...

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Agreed. The NCAA said you couldn't show high school games on the LHN. Glad we agree.



You're kind of an idiot...the NCAA stepped in after the Big 12 made the rule so no other team affiliated network could add HS football to their network. To be fair to Texas...not to slap them with some rule because crybaby aggy ran to them. I see you still haven't addressed the 7on7 championship you guys hold every year...I'm sure the SEC will pick up on that eventually.

Oh...and congratulations on linking an article about the PAC-12 saying that they were not taking any more schools almost 2 years after the fact that Texas said no to them as your proof that they turned down Texas. BRILLIANT retort farmer!!! In no part of that article does it say that Texas asked to be in the conference...because they had already turned it down and you guys were already on the way to the SEC.

Should we now discuss how your president flat out lied to the conference by pledging loyalty to it after Texas turned down the PAC offer and then bolted the next season?

Edit: By the way, your links are broken as well, but I know how to internet


You sure do whine a lot.

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he NCAA stepped in after the Big 12 made the rule so no other team affiliated network could add HS football to their network. To be fair to Texas...not to slap them


From the article you linked to:
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The Longhorn Network will not show high school game highlights under an agreement approved by leaders of the Big 12, including Texas. The NCAA has already banned school-affiliated networks from showing high school games, saying they would be an unfair recruiting advantage.
This post was edited on 8/28/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1762 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:20 pm to
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to get the rest of the Big 12 to turn against us


you did a good enough job of that yourselves. the teams that could leave, did. oklahoma can't cut ties to texas recruiting or leave behind okie st, and texas isn't going to bring the LHN anywhere. the other teams are irrelevant, which is why I suppose you're here.

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Should we now discuss how your president flat out lied to the conference by pledging loyalty to it after Texas turned down the PAC offer and then bolted the next season?


if this went down exactly as you state, i'm only angry that we didn't try to frick you any worse.
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
463 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:24 pm to
Anyway, I'm done with this shite. Gotta football game to catch in a couple of hours.

Posted by TheRookbird
Member since Aug 2013
1322 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:26 pm to
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the NCAA stepped in after the Big 12 made the rule so no other team affiliated network could add HS football to their network.


Your link contradicts what you're saying. The Big XII banned highlights after the NCAA banned games. Read your link.

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and congratulations on linking an article about the PAC-12 saying that they were not taking any more schools almost 2 years after the fact that Texas said no to them as your proof that they turned down Texas.


HA. This is hilarious.

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Another source confirmed to Schad on Sunday night that Texas president Bill Powers met with Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott in Los Angeles this weekend.

Texas officials traveled to California to watch the Longhorns game against UCLA.

Earlier, The Austin American-Statesman reported the Pac-12 was working out final details to add Texas and Oklahoma to the conference, along with fellow Big 12 schools Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. The Statesman cited a source close to the situation that stressed the deal is not yet complete, but that talks were "heating up."

A source told ESPN.com's Andy Katz the move to add Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State still has a long way to go before the Pac-12 leadership would be comfortable recommending it to the league's presidents, who have made it clear to the league's leadership that they don't want to expand beyond 12 at this point.

The proposed deal would allow Texas to keep ESPN's Longhorn Network, though The Statesman reports the network would have to add other Pac-12 programming to the network.


LINK

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The Pac-12 decided it won't expand further late Tuesday because commissioner Larry Scott failed to get assurance that Texas would back an equal revenue sharing plan if the league added the Longhorns, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, a source with direct knowledge told ESPN.com.


Scott didn't endorse expansion to the league's presidents and chancellors, the source said.



LINK

I think you might be the one with the revisionist history view.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21557 posts
Posted on 8/28/14 at 2:34 pm to


Wow, 3+ pages of Aggotts vs. Irrelevanthorns and they think they're not rivals anymore....
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