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re: Can Alabama figure out spread offenses or is this the end of Saban

Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9423 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Until they actually come within 3 touchdowns of Alabama in a game, I think there should be a rule disallowing Tennessee fans from piggy-backing upon the success of others.


Alabama is going for what, 6 in a row on Tennessee this year?

LSU fans should also take note, with Bama going for 4 in a row imho. Auburn fans are justified in their shite talking.
Posted by lsufancy63
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
796 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:51 pm to
People on here have the right to post Auburn dominating Alabama just like they did when Clemson and Ole Miss beat LSU with seconds remaining making it out like both those teams dominated LSU. The true colors come out when those so called dominating teams lay an egg as the season goes on!!!!!
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
Glen Iris
Member since Mar 2014
2433 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Don't carry that hate in your heart Larry. That's the shite that causes cancer.



I don't hate him. I just think he sucked at kicking the football and was a weight room warrior.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70972 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:53 pm to
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weight room warrior.


it seems y'all need some LB's with this title the way Mason was running.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Alabama is going for what, 6 in a row on Tennessee this year?



8 in a row.

2007: 41-17
2008: 29-9
2009: 12-10
2010: 41-10
2011: 37-6
2012: 44-10
2013: 45-10
2014: ??

Tennessee is 3-8 against Alabama in their last 11 outings.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9423 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:55 pm to
damn
Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17768 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:57 pm to
Nice deflect.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:58 pm to
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it seems y'all need some LB's with this title the way Mason was running.



We need faster linebackers, not stronger ones. These little scat backs are beating our people to the edges.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70972 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:01 pm to
You get faster in the weight room too. It's called fast twitch muscle fibers. Bama trains with HIT programs just like UF did when Mariotti was there. Or at least they did a few years ago. If they don't anymore, then good-frickin'-luck in the SEC.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:04 pm to
I am not putting the blame for that game entirely on Foster. That last red zone trip saw a 4th & 1 from the 13-yard line or some crap like that. Auburn had EVERYONE up on that line expecting us to run for the first down. If we run a QB boot leg pass to OJ Howard instead of doing what we did, Alabama is up 35-21 with less than 5 minutes to play.

Poor offensive play calling and a failure by McCarron to audible at the line.

Posted by BlackAndGoldTigers
Member since Jul 2014
15 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:05 pm to
No this is not the "end" of Saban not will it ever be until he retires. But bama has indeed, despite some of these posts, struggled multiple times vs spread - oklahoma and A&m burned them this year. Overall I think the most import test thing is for Saban to get faster D ends and OLB's like lsu does, instead of the type that are built to stop a Stanford or michie state style offense. That's why manziel ran in circles in the backfield so easily was bc all the linemen were way too slow but vs lsu he couldn't do that. But dashawn hand should certainly help the cause
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:07 pm to
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You get faster in the weight room too. It's called fast twitch muscle fibers.


They're fast but not quick. Our LBs last year, and every year previous, were built to stop more traditional offensive attacks. Starting with the '13 recruiting class, that trend has begun to change. This year we should have LBs and DLs who are quicker to the edge.



Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61969 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:11 pm to
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If Cade Foster hadn't been herp-derping in that game, Alabama more than likely wins the game by 10-13 points.


Yea and if had hit our wide open touchdown and you would not have gotten a lucky 99 yard TD pass, we would have dominated


Whatever.


Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26738 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:11 pm to
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unless the other team is rushing for 6.2 ypc, and also outpassing you by nearly 200 yards


This would mean something if you were facing your own defense.

Auburn was ranked in the conference
Scoring Defense - 9th
Rush Defense - 10th
Total Defense - 12th
Pass Defense - 13th

Bama was ranked in the conference
Scoring Defense - 1st
Rush Defense - 1st
Total Defense - 1st
Pass Defense - 2nd

I think what Auburn accomplished against the top ranked conference defense is better than what Alabama accomplished against one of the worst defenses.

Saban better find out the answer quick because in 2015, LSU, Auburn, UT, and TAMU will be LOADED on offense with talent and experience. Each of these has either a dual threat QB, runs the spread, or both.



Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:13 pm to
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Yea and if had hit our wide open touchdown and you would not have gotten a lucky 99 yard TD pass, we would have dominated



Lucky? Your DB got shook by arguably the best WR in the SEC. Cooper was wide open. Unlike Nick Marshall, AJ McCarron is actually a QB and not just a third or fourth RB in the backfield.



Posted by poncho villa
DALLAS
Member since Jul 2010
17768 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:16 pm to
I missed this. So glad I'm back.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61969 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:19 pm to
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Lucky? Your DB got shook by arguably the best WR in the SEC. Cooper was wide open. Unlike Nick Marshall, AJ McCarron is actually a QB and not just a third or fourth RB in the backfield.


Regardless, you can not have it both ways. If you get to claim missed Field goals, we can count obvious missed TD passes.

But in the end

Marshall at QB > Foster at Place Kicker



Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26738 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:19 pm to
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LOL he makes just 1 kick out of 3 and we win. He had one job and screwed it up.


LOL, if Auburn just makes an easy tackle on that 99 yard pass, yall still lose. See how easy that is? Nothing in football is automatic.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61969 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

Unlike Nick Marshall, AJ McCarron is actually a QB and not just a third or fourth RB in the backfield.


And Marshall did pretty good against your defense as well.


Posted by Cumulonimbus
Alabama
Member since Jun 2014
623 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:22 pm to
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You are a sad man.

Not how you think.
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