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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:54 am
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:54 am
They started off hot last year in Kingsbury's first year as head coach, but then they took a nose dive and lost five games in a row to finish the regular season.

They started 7-0, but their best win was a 10 point victory over a West Virginia team that finished 4-8. All the wins were cupcakes, and when they hit the meat of their schedule in the second half of the season, they went 0-5.

Their only win in the regular season against a team with a winning record came against FCS Stephen F. Austin.

We are their first true test of the season. They get UCA at home, then they go on the road to UTEP, and then host Arkansas in Lubbock. We will be more battle tested after facing Auburn in game one, so I give the preparedness advantage to the Hogs.

They are completely rebuilding the inside of their DL. I got this from an ESPN preview for TT:

quote:

After ranking ninth in the Big 12 in rush defense and losing top inside D-linemen Dartwan Bush and Kerry Hyder, the Red Raiders desperately need a newcomer to emerge at defensive tackle. They have one option already on campus in juco transfer Keland McElrath, who chose Tech over West Virginia and Kentucky. McElrath has reportedly been dealing with a stress fracture, but if he can get healthy, he can give the Red Raiders some much needed beef up front.


What stands out to me is that they ranked 9th in the Big XII in rush defense, and they lost their two starting DTs - and In a league that already plays terrible defense, ranking 9th out of 10 surely has Bielema salivating over the rushing possibilities with our Trifecta of backs. Tech also has question marks at linebacker and they lost two of their best DBs to graduation.

Texas Tech has quarterback concerns just like we do. They return true sophomore Davis Webb who showed some flashes last year, but he was also plagued by bad decisions and interceptions similar to Brandon Allen.

If we can rattle his cage early with Flowers and Wise, it will take some of the pressure off our secondary.

Tech has the home field advantage, but we get a favorable kickoff time of 2:30. That's better than a night road game, and playing in the dry heat of Lubbock won't be a factor after playing in the wet heat of Arkansas during August.

My prediction:

Arkansas - 24

Texas Tech - 20



This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 6:59 pm
Posted by wmr
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:59 am to
If they have a weak DL, then we should bulldoze them. AC will have 200 yards.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:


Tech has the home field advantage, but we get a favorable kickoff time of 2:30. That's better than a night road game, and playing in the dry heat of Lubbock won't be a factor after playing in the wet heat of Arkansas during August.


Its still fricking hot, dry or wet, scorching down there.

The advantage would be we get to wear our whites, and TTU will likely be wearing their blacks, but possibly their reds.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:17 pm to
It will be a tough game. I think we can run all over them but can when stop their offense?
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 4:52 pm to
I think we can score practically every possession IF we don't shoot ourselves in the foot with missed assignments and turnovers.

Not sure exactly HOW potent their offense is going to be, but I figure they will score 3 or 4 times on us too.

If we play well, Hogs 45-28.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:11 pm to
We should be able to run for days against them and they should be able to come close to passing records against us. It's going to come down to who turns the ball over more imo. Personally, I don't see us winning this one but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if we did.
Posted by RazorbackLaw501
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 5:15 pm to
*I'm going to assume there won't be any major injuries going into the game; knock on wood.

Honestly, I'm much more worried about Ole Miss and MSU than TT. As long as we deal with Rika Levi on a consistent basis(I read where he's hit 495 on bench press;I'd imagine his squat and clean numbers are pretty sick, too), I think we'll run completely over them. And if they stack the line like they'll probably have to, I believe we can shred them over the top if we can get good production from at least two of: Henry, Hatcher, Edwards, Robinson, Cornelius, Hollister, Wilson, Mitchell, Derby, Morgan, Floyd, Payne, Saunders, or maybe Cowan. . .

I think our entire defensive front will cause them serious problems, particularly Flowers. For example, Cedric Ogbuehi seems to be considered by a lot of people to be a premier OT. On one play last year, Flowers literally took hold and slammed Ogbuehi face first into the ground. I'm pretty sure they had Matthews on him the majority of the time not too long after that; Matthews seemed to handle Flowers for the most part, but they don't have a top 10 draft pick anywhere on their line.

I'm also not worried about their HUNU either. If we get the pressure on Webb like I think we will, they won't be on offense for sustained drives.

Some fans on both sides seem to think weather will adversely affect the players. I don't see why they feel that way. The average high during the month of the game is 4.5 degrees higher in Lubbock than Fayetteville. The average high for September in Lubbock is 84.5(it's 91.3 vs. 90.5 in Fayetteville for August); yeah, that's just brutal. Also, the humidity in Lubbock is not as bad as sub-tropical Arkansas.

Lastly, Clay Jennings is the real deal; Taver Johnson was/is not. I know that may come off as sour grapes, or whatever, but it just seems to me that one probably wouldn't get "demoted" twice by being a sound fundamental-football coaching rock superstar.

Anyway, Jennings worked and learned for 6 years from one of the best defensive gurus in the business, and I think the CB's will be much more improved. Another issue, from what I understand,is that Ash and Johnson never got on the same page from a communication stand point, hence the "spirited" coaches meeting during the season that Bielemia mentioned in a press conference(just a heads up, this information was from Mike Irwin who posted it on Hogville; his story makes sense and the two people Irwin accused are no longer with the program, so...);I'm willing to wager we don't have that problem this year.

There are 5 football games where I expect us to totally dominate the line of scrimmage and TT is one of them(the others are A&M*, UAB, Nichols State, and NIU). I think we win fairly convincingly. . .maybe 31-17ish.

By the way, that 2013 Arizona State team that TT beat were a bunch of posers. They were very lucky to beat a decent Wisconsin team at home;they got smoked by Stanford both times they played them; their best win was against a scrappy UCLA team who went 2-3 vs. ranked teams.

*Myles Garret will be tough to defend when we are in pass pro, but them losing Golden and Caliborn is huge for us.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:05 pm to
Damn you for giving me some hope.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 7:41 pm to
Tech has a lot to replace and some imo iffy returning players. I'm not sayin it'll be a cakewalk but I got y'all 30ish to 25ish
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

What are your thoughts on the Texas Tech game?


Should learn a lot about how this game in Lubbock will play out based on your opener, imo............ Cause, if your D has trouble slowing the pace of the up-tempo auburn thugs down at a measly 500 foot elevation…………then do you understand what it’s going to be like for them chasing an up-tempo offense on the High Plains of West Texas at an altitude Seven times higher than that?…….

We're talking 3,500 feet mean sea level here. And dry air too....


Anyway. Lungs will naturally pump battery acid inside un-acclimated player's chests in the thin air of that altitude when they get winded. And it will burn.



I’d probably set the line at Texas Tech -7.5 based on elevation/relative-oxygen-levels alone to be perfectly honest………………Just how I see it. Good Luck though.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 8:40 am to
Now to look at some recruiting comparisons between the two teams.

Class ranking from 24/7, 2011-2014:

2011
Arkansas - 21 - Highest rated player was Brey Cook, Senior OT
Texas Tech - 18 - Highest rated player was DT Delvon Simmons, transferred to USC.

2012
Arkansas - 28 - HRP was Jonathan Williams, Junior RB
Texas Tech - 27 - HRP was OT Michael Starts, transferred to junior college.

2013
Arkansas - 23 - HRP was Alex Collins, Sophomore RB
Texas Tech 46 - HRP was JUCO DE Andre Ross, now a Senior

2014
Arkansas - 30 - HRP is 4* Bijhon Jackson, DT from El Dorado
Texas Tech - 41 - HRP is 3* safety Payton Hendrix.

Arkansas had a high of 21 and a low of 30, while TT had a high of 18 but a low of 46. Our recruiting has been much more steady, while TT had a good year in 2011 and then started to tank.

Also note that the top two players for Texas Tech in 2011 and 2012 are no longer on the team.
Posted by hoginthesw
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:18 am to
The only weather factor that poses a concern is the wind because of the dust, and that isn't a concern at all. Unless a freak dust storm rolls in, but those wait until its time for my flight out always. Of course, outside of the heat-which is tolerable. If I can walk property in a suit in june-30 weeks pregnant all friggn day out there, then they will be just fine.


hope everyone is well.



Posted by OSqueal
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Posted on 6/22/14 at 9:35 pm to
I clicked this thread expecting to read a good synopsis of our game with TT and it turned into some weird Bill Nye the Science Guy episode and I don't know understand what the frick anyone's talking about. Geesh, I need a drink.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 8/9/14 at 12:12 pm to
Bad match ups for both teams. Tech will try to air us out and we will try to run them over. If we can maintain possession and not have many 3 and outs or turnovers we should win. If we can't maintain possession we lose its as simple as that. I don't think our DB's will be able to hang with them, but the fact they lost their main receiving targets helps us a little. I'd feel much better about this game if it was a home for us instead of in Lubbock.

I won't be surprised if they set a bunch of passing records against us. My faith is very low against a team that loves to air it out.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 9:00 pm to
Bump, admins please merge with the other thread.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 9/11/14 at 11:42 am to
As long as the Hogs have 1 more point at the end I will be happy and see what happens next.
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