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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:11 pm to Korin
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Thanks to Stoerner and FSU's third-string qb.
you could say something similar about any national champion in the history of ever. tennessee was undefeated. that is something you can't say about quite a few other national champions
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Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:13 pm to Korin
It's not a secret you've got to have the ball bounce your way through out the season to win a NC. That might be the one thing that Richt hasn't gotten lucky with. I don't think you can discredit what Fulmer did because of it. It happens every year
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:15 pm to TRUERockyTop
Which helps reinforce what I said earlier - national titles are mythical.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:17 pm to Korin
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Which helps reinforce what I said earlier - national titles are mythical.
well fulmer has a higher career winning percentage and an equal amount of bowl wins and sec titles. national titles seems like the logical way to differentiate two coaches with very similar resumes.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:18 pm to lsufball19
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well fulmer has a higher career winning percentage
The SEC was weaker in the 90's.
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and an equal amount of bowl wins
Richt won more BCS games.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:19 pm to TRUERockyTop
We need to look at the landscape they coached against.
Fulmer had only UF to compete with in the east. The next best team, UGA, won 10 games only twice that decade and was average to awful the rest of the time. Their west opponent bama was pretty average except for a handful of years.
Richt has had to face UT when they were still strong with fulmer, florida with meyer, and a resurgent SC team. Auburn is also very good. The overall quality of competition Richt is facing is far better than what fulmer did.
I don't have the time at the moment, but maybe later I'll go through each season. When you look at top to bottom overall resume, Richt's is better. Richt hasn't had the really bad seasons fulmer has had. The ONLY thing that would make anybody even think of saying fulmer is that he has a national title which, just like most of the SEC winners from 96-2012, involved quite a bit of luck. Fulmer didn't win a national title, Arkansas handed it to them.
Fulmer had only UF to compete with in the east. The next best team, UGA, won 10 games only twice that decade and was average to awful the rest of the time. Their west opponent bama was pretty average except for a handful of years.
Richt has had to face UT when they were still strong with fulmer, florida with meyer, and a resurgent SC team. Auburn is also very good. The overall quality of competition Richt is facing is far better than what fulmer did.
I don't have the time at the moment, but maybe later I'll go through each season. When you look at top to bottom overall resume, Richt's is better. Richt hasn't had the really bad seasons fulmer has had. The ONLY thing that would make anybody even think of saying fulmer is that he has a national title which, just like most of the SEC winners from 96-2012, involved quite a bit of luck. Fulmer didn't win a national title, Arkansas handed it to them.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:19 pm to lsufball19
or head-2-head... richt's also won the SEC and East as many times PF, but needed fewer years to do so.
it's very close, though... could go either way.
it's very close, though... could go either way.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:20 pm to Korin
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The SEC was weaker in the 90's.
sec east has been weak lately
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Richt won more BCS games.
cool? he hasn't won the most important bcs game, though
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:23 pm to lsufball19
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cool? he hasn't won the most important bcs game, though
The ONLY difference between Richt's 02 season and:
-96 UF
-03 LSU
-06 UF
-07 LSU
-08 UF
-11 bama
-12 bama
is that those other teams were lucky enough to have the highly ranked teams in front of them lose, after they lost a game. Richt didn't.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:27 pm to WG_Dawg
right.... luck doesn't magically make Fulmer a better coach than Richt.
i'm also surprised at how poorly fulmer did against his peers... he was owned by Spurrier, had a losing record to Richt, and was wipped by Saban (2001, 2007, 2008)
i'm also surprised at how poorly fulmer did against his peers... he was owned by Spurrier, had a losing record to Richt, and was wipped by Saban (2001, 2007, 2008)
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:28 pm to WG_Dawg
Well then you guys should've gone undefeated like Fulmer managed to do and it would have all worked out. Georgia football: good never great.
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:28 pm to WG_Dawg
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The ONLY difference between Richt's 02 season and:
-96 UF
-03 LSU
-06 UF
-07 LSU
-08 UF
-11 bama
-12 bama
is that those other teams were lucky enough to have the highly ranked teams in front of them lose, after they lost a game. Richt didn't.
then he should have gone undefeated like fulmer did to win a national title. we're not comparing richt to saban, miles, spurrier, or meyer
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:30 pm to lsufball19
You mean like Auburn in 04?
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:32 pm to Korin
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So then Chizik and Coker > Richt as well?
Putting Chizik aside, Coker is different. Fulmer built his own program/roster on the way to a NC, Coker certainly did not
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:32 pm to psk_Vol
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Georgia football: good never great.
im so rustled bro
Posted on 6/10/14 at 1:33 pm to Wishnitwas1998
UT was very good in the 80s... fulmer inherited a solid program from majors (stole it from him really).
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