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re: Which Alabama team has been luckier during the Run of 5?
Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:55 pm to brewhan davey
Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:55 pm to brewhan davey
There was little lobbying. Everyone in front of us lost. In the current system, that equals a trip to the ship.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 4:56 pm to Lordofwrath88
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Everyone in front of us lost.
That may be true, but
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There was little lobbying.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 5:27 pm to JuiceTerry
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Uh, every thing you listed save Iowa state was simply good play by Bama.
Alabama never loses to a better team. They merely beat themselves.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 6:02 pm to PrivatePublic
2011 Saban begs and pleads to get a mulligan
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:14 pm to Bench McElroy
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2003-2007 LSU was much luckier than both of those teams. The amount of luck that they needed to get into the national championship games in 2003 and 2007 was staggering.
LSU won the SEC both seasons. Therefore, your statement is retarded.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:21 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Alabama getting a do-over after losing their division trumps every "miracle" Auburn has ever had and it's not even close
Not really. Other than 9-6 no team was within 14 points of Alabama that year. They needed oklahoma state to lose to make the title.
Auburn squeeked by on multiple occasions and needed ohio state to lose to get in.
Both teams lost a game and both teams needed someone else to get upset to make the title, however in the wins for both teams alabama annhilated the competition and auburn needed two of the most miraculous finishes in CFB history in addition to battling until the final minute with texas A&M and Miss state.
That, is "not even close"
Your bama paranoia is showing
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:23 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
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LSU won the SEC both seasons. Therefore, your statement is retarded.
Winning the SEC has nothing to do with the luck required. You still needed others to lose.
In two decades of the BCS LSU is the only two loss champion and entered the final week outside of the top 5. That is luck any way you slice it. Y'all lost to Kentucky in addition to losing your final regular season game
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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:nb4LSUfansallsay2011:
2011 didn't have anything to do with luck, it was politics. Little Nicky had to show everyone his Vag on national tv
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:27 pm to LSUNV
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Little Nicky had to show everyone his Vag on national tv
And it turns out that Alabama was the best team in the country that year. The reason it haunts y'all to this day is because you knew the sunday after the game that you couldn't beat bama again, and that reared it's head when oklahoma state lost. The begging and pleading began about how bama didn't deserve to be there because everyone knew they would whip that arse in a rematch.
LSU fans wanted the easy way out and they didn't get it. Here we are two years later and some of you still haven't gotten over it and never will
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:35 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Apparently you still haven't figured out why it bothers people, not just LSU fans, then you dumb.
There are plenty of fans of other teams that thought it was unfair
There are plenty of fans of other teams that thought it was unfair
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:35 pm to PrivatePublic
Luckiest in order
1. Auburn 2013
1 loss, 1 miracle win (UGA own it)
2. Bama 2011
bullshite bullshite bullshite (sorry)
3. Auburn 2010
How the frick do you not Figure out how Auburn was paying Cam Newton?
4. Bama 2009
PP&'s stolen interception, Colt McCoy hurting Arms
5. 2012 Bama
as much luck as any 1 loss Champion. No particularly lucky games IMO
1. Auburn 2013
1 loss, 1 miracle win (UGA own it)
2. Bama 2011
bullshite bullshite bullshite (sorry)
3. Auburn 2010
How the frick do you not Figure out how Auburn was paying Cam Newton?
4. Bama 2009
PP&'s stolen interception, Colt McCoy hurting Arms
5. 2012 Bama
as much luck as any 1 loss Champion. No particularly lucky games IMO
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:36 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
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LSU won the SEC both seasons. Therefore, your statement is retarded.
What does winning the SEC have to do with luck and playing in the national championship game? Auburn and Alabama never relied on weird quirks like the #1 team in both polls being left out of the national championship game due to one of the teams on their schedule losing to another team (Hawaii losing to Boise State) in the final week. Bama and Auburn also never had the good fortune of jumping ahead of FIVE teams in the BCS Standings in the last week of the season to sneak into the BCS National Championship Game. By comparison, Bama only had to jump one team after losing to LSU in 2011 and two teams in 2012 when they lost to A&M. 2013 Auburn also only had to worry about jumping one team. 2003-2007 LSU was infinitely luckier than Bama or Auburn during their title runs.
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:38 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
there was nothing easy about 9-6
we beat yall straight up and that should have been the last time we played each other
that's all I have to say cuz I don't feel like driving 88 mph
eta obviously my answer is 2011 Gumps
we beat yall straight up and that should have been the last time we played each other
that's all I have to say cuz I don't feel like driving 88 mph
eta obviously my answer is 2011 Gumps
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:40 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Y'all lost in the regular season to not only a conference opponent, but a division opponent. Better team or not Bama should not have been in that game. LSU did indeed get fricked.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:46 pm to philly444
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Y'all lost in the regular season to not only a conference opponent, but a division opponent. Better team or not Bama should not have been in that game. LSU did indeed get fricked.
LSU got fricked in 2011 but they got extremely lucky in 2003 and 2007 so I guess it was karma coming back to finally kick them in the arse.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:51 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Not really. Other than 9-6 no team was within 14 points of Alabama that year.
That's kinda what happens when you play 2 good teams and lose to one of them.
Losing your division and winning a title is by far the luckiest fricking thing that any team has ever had happen to them.
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:55 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Losing your division and winning a title is by far the luckiest fricking thing that any team has ever had happen to them.
# of teams that have played for the national championship without winning their conference- 3
# of 2-loss teams that have played for the national championship- 1
Posted on 12/24/13 at 9:57 pm to PrivatePublic
2009 Bama IMO. They were the worst of the SEC champs since 2003 that had the most breaks go their way. From the original list...
That was a game saving/winning FG block on the last play that happens when? About once every 20 years in SEC games? Can anyone name when a team blocked a relatively short fg to win an SEC game on the final play or in the final seconds in the last 2 decades? Last 3 decades? I dunno, nothing comes to mind and it is a play that happens infinitely less than completing a 4th and 18 to win a game (AU vs UGA). In fact no play in any SEC team that won a NC was as uncommon as that one IMO.
Another one, but not so much luck. Bama was fortunate converting so many 3rd downs, but they made the plays.
Wasn't that the year PP7 got the pic and bama's replay guy wouldn't reverse it? I think LSU wins if the replay guy does his job.
Yes. Texas would have beaten bama by two TDs otherwise IMO.
Not a lucky play. Good defense to cause a fumble.
2011 bama is second. They did not win the SEC and needed a huge upset to even make it to the game. Okie State had a better resume as well. Bama should not have been in the game at all, so this is #2, but only because 2009 really did involve an insane amount of luck/fortune.
2012 bama was not really lucky IMO. There was no other team that had an argument to be in the game. Stanford was not a surprise when they won. Baylor was, but not that crazy. And bama beat UGA in a tough game that was not luck, just either team could have won. I will put them at #4 on the list, behind...
2013 AU. Only thing that was lucky about AU this year was the tip against UGA. Not often you complete 4th and 18, but it pales in comparison to number #1 and 2 on the list. The drive against State involved zero luck. The "horse collar" was a judgement call that could easily be argued either way as the defender had Manziel's arm before his collar and their is absolutely no guarantee A&M scores anyway. AU's redzone D has been near top of the SEC all year. Bama game, AU pushed bama around on both sides of the ball which is why bama had to keep attempting fgs anyway. Could never get a yard when they needed to and AU could and did all game. Still, the UGA tip was enough for the #3 spot.
2010 AU didn't need any luck. Clemson makes the fg in overtime, AU probably wins in the next OT anyway. As for the fumble, bad calls in that IB were the only reason bama was in the game and even with them, AU took the lead in the 3rd quarter. Bama was a lot "luckier" than AU in that game overall.
So,
2009 Bama
2011 Bama
(these two are in their own league)
2013 AU
2012 Bama
2010 AU
(these two didn't need luck)
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2009 - The hand of fate (Cody vs. UT)
That was a game saving/winning FG block on the last play that happens when? About once every 20 years in SEC games? Can anyone name when a team blocked a relatively short fg to win an SEC game on the final play or in the final seconds in the last 2 decades? Last 3 decades? I dunno, nothing comes to mind and it is a play that happens infinitely less than completing a 4th and 18 to win a game (AU vs UGA). In fact no play in any SEC team that won a NC was as uncommon as that one IMO.
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2009 - The drive at Auburn
Another one, but not so much luck. Bama was fortunate converting so many 3rd downs, but they made the plays.
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2009 - SEC refs
Wasn't that the year PP7 got the pic and bama's replay guy wouldn't reverse it? I think LSU wins if the replay guy does his job.
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2009 - McCoy goes down
Yes. Texas would have beaten bama by two TDs otherwise IMO.
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2009 - Gilbert fumbles to stop the comeback
Not a lucky play. Good defense to cause a fumble.
2011 bama is second. They did not win the SEC and needed a huge upset to even make it to the game. Okie State had a better resume as well. Bama should not have been in the game at all, so this is #2, but only because 2009 really did involve an insane amount of luck/fortune.
2012 bama was not really lucky IMO. There was no other team that had an argument to be in the game. Stanford was not a surprise when they won. Baylor was, but not that crazy. And bama beat UGA in a tough game that was not luck, just either team could have won. I will put them at #4 on the list, behind...
2013 AU. Only thing that was lucky about AU this year was the tip against UGA. Not often you complete 4th and 18, but it pales in comparison to number #1 and 2 on the list. The drive against State involved zero luck. The "horse collar" was a judgement call that could easily be argued either way as the defender had Manziel's arm before his collar and their is absolutely no guarantee A&M scores anyway. AU's redzone D has been near top of the SEC all year. Bama game, AU pushed bama around on both sides of the ball which is why bama had to keep attempting fgs anyway. Could never get a yard when they needed to and AU could and did all game. Still, the UGA tip was enough for the #3 spot.
2010 AU didn't need any luck. Clemson makes the fg in overtime, AU probably wins in the next OT anyway. As for the fumble, bad calls in that IB were the only reason bama was in the game and even with them, AU took the lead in the 3rd quarter. Bama was a lot "luckier" than AU in that game overall.
So,
2009 Bama
2011 Bama
(these two are in their own league)
2013 AU
2012 Bama
2010 AU
(these two didn't need luck)
Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:03 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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That was a game saving/winning FG block on the last play that happens when? About once every 20 years in SEC games? Can anyone name when a team blocked a relatively short fg to win an SEC game on the final play or in the final seconds in the last 2 decades? Last 3 decades? I dunno, nothing comes to mind
Let's see this literally happened a few years prior with Florida blocking a last second FG by south carolina in 2006 that preserved their chance at a national title
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infinitely less than completing a 4th and 18 to win a game (AU vs UGA
lol. You act like auburn threw an 18 yard touchdown pass. It was a 73 yard prayer that was tipped by a defender
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In fact no play in any SEC team that won a NC was as uncommon as that one IMO.
See first point. Your syndrome is showing
This post was edited on 12/24/13 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 12/24/13 at 10:03 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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That was a game saving/winning FG block on the last play that happens when? About once every 20 years in SEC games? Can anyone name when a team blocked a relatively short fg to win an SEC game on the final play or in the final seconds in the last 2 decades?
Pretty sure Florida did that against USC in 2006.
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