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Serious question I was wondering...LSU bball related

Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:11 pm
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:11 pm
Why isn't LSU's basketball program a better respected and more successful program than what it is?

The program has 2 of the preeminent and easily best players in the SEC historically with Pistol Pete and Shaq and a myriad of other good players who've had good NBA success

And still can't have continued success

I believe La and areas of Tx are just as talented bball wise for a coach who can recruit the area to do very well there, yet they haven't

Is it SEC West? Is it bad coaching? Is it lack of dedication to the bball side? What is it?
This post was edited on 1/25/14 at 9:20 pm
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
11625 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

I believe La and areas of Tx are just as talented bball wise for a coach who can recruit the area to do very well there, yet they haven't


Currently in progress

quote:

Is it bad coaching?


Yes

Eta. And probation
This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21237 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:13 pm to
They probably need the same thing Bama basketball needs, a new coach.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:14 pm to
Consistency.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

and more successful program than what it is?



2nd most SEC titles behing UK

4 Final Fours

we're doing just fine. It's been a rough ten years or so but we're slowing getting it back
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85917 posts
Posted on 12/18/13 at 10:45 pm to
If you would like to know why LSU fell into a pit in the 90's and 2000's look no further than 3 parties.

Lester Earl
Lying assholes in the NCAA.
Scum bag Roy Williams.


This post was edited on 12/18/13 at 10:46 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 1:25 am to
Terrible coaching.

Trent Johnson really set the program back.

But I agree, a lot of basketball talent in LA and Texas, we should be better.

With Jones and they way he has been recruiting we will become legit in due time.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:05 am to
quote:

The program has 2 of the preeminent and easily best players in the SEC historically with Pistol Pete and Shaq and a myriad of other good players who've had good NBA success
Hell, they even had Bob Pettit. And Dale Brown openly criticizing the NCAA and calling them hypocrites
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 7:19 am to
Bad coaching hires and probation coinciding with the rise of LSU baseball relegated it pretty far down the priority list in the athletic department.

We're coming back though. Tourney team this year and for the first time since the 05-06 Final Four run we can actually recruit worth a shite.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 12/19/13 at 8:59 am to
You should pick and choose you battles a little better buc.

You've been getting toasted on the recruiting front lately, so you poke at basketball?

I'll bite. Sanctions, then a terrible apr meant we needed a guy like Trent to get us back on track.

I really have to thank him, because the program is in great shape now. Now that we have the right man for the job, you see us pulling in multiple top 10 national players, in addition to literally the best juco guards on the market.

Have fun spinning your tires with anthony grant.

Here are the teams CJJ beat out for our last 7 or so bball commits

Ohio state
Louisville
Ucla
Arizona
Duke
Kentucky
North Carolina
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 9:01 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/19/13 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Why isn't LSU's basketball program a better respected and more successful program than what it is?

the 90s were terrible for us and then we were up and down in the 00s but mostly down.

This is because of Roy Williams. The probation for roy williams an lester earls lies killed the program. Then because of probation we hired John Brady. He had his up and downs. We got rid of him at the correct time but we made a terrible hire in trent Johnson. I was on board with the hire because of his past success but then he showed he actually couldn't recruit or coach.

We are on the right track now with coaching and recruiting.

Since we were so up and down for so long it takes time to get a crowd back into basketball. The problem was when we were bad with trent johnson we were unwatchable. It was boring untalented basketball with him for the most part.

LSU also does a terrible job of marketing the basketball team. Then to compound the issues it looks like we have no student support because LSU thought the media and the band should go behind the goals allowing the students 1/3 of the lower seats behind the goal. Then that 1/3 section is filled with creeps like Jaycee so no one wants to be seen around them. The rest of the student sections are mid level and up and that is where students sit. We need to move the students back to mid court in one solid block


eta: fwiw I wish nothing but pain and anguish for Roy Williams and Lester Earl. The fact lester Earl has come crawling back to LA poor as can be and begging for forgiveness pleases me to no end. The fact he hasn't found any forgiveness besides daddy dale makes me even happier.
This post was edited on 12/19/13 at 10:13 am
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 1/25/14 at 10:10 pm to
Basketball is far behind football and baseball as far as fan interest. Football has brought 2 BCS titles and baseball brought home 6 national titles. To recollection, basketball only has a couple final four appearances. In short, winning creates more fan support, which in turn produces better quality.
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