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Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:29 pm
What if we fire Dan and HUD tells us no thanks?

I know Engie will say no way possible, but who is plan B???
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:34 pm to
oh lawd
Posted by weedGOKU666
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:38 pm to
We don't fire Dan unless we have a guarantee from Hud. Seems pretty simple.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:45 pm to
Good god. They would not do it unless they had HUD signed already.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36293 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

We don't fire Dan unless we have a guarantee from Hud. Seems pretty simple.


True but what if he bolts for UCONN
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 6:17 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Tue but what if he bolts for UCONN


Why would Mullen bolting for UCONN hurt us in ANY way? That's the best possible scenario for all involved. We don't have to fire a successful coach -- and we get the coach we really want anyway.

We've got a situation teed up for a coach to have success. For every coach that's scared away because "we fired Mullen too soon", there will be 2 that say "holy shite, I can win 8+ there for the next 2 years and jump to a nationally elite job" IF it came to that.

Bottom line is, we aren't getting rid of Mullen unless we've got something postdated on paper from Hudspeth...

And a possibility for plan B is Kyle Whittingham. Pretty well-known that he's had interest in our job. Had an MSU grad as his Director of Football Operations for awhile at Utah who has relayed his interest back before...
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:03 pm to
No plan b stricklin. NO PLAN B
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:03 pm to
If he bolts to ucon maybe he will take darkhorse/soratable with him and not only will state have a new coach but everyone here will feel like the stayed at a holiday inn express last night.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:14 pm to
Everyone will know whats up by the time the egg bowl comes around. If it is not a hard sellout then change would be probable. Football is the cash cow for an athletic dept. There are big bills to pay due to titleX, expansion, and non revenue sports. Coaching changes are not made over wins and losses but whether or not fan support is falling and financial reasons.
People who think big donors are making all the decisions are fricking idiot conspiracy freaks, even if you donate millions a year it does not make up for the lost revenue if fan apathy sets in. You can only count on the visitors to buy so many tickets.Watch the stands and next years season ticket sales and you will find your answer
Posted by Diamondawg
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Member since Oct 2006
37001 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

True but what if he bolts for UCONN


He won't bolt for $750,000 a year.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

People who think big donors are making all the decisions are fricking idiot conspiracy freaks, even if you donate millions a year it does not make up for the lost revenue if fan apathy sets in. You can only count on the visitors to buy so many tickets.Watch the stands and next years season ticket sales and you will find your answer


Why would you think "big donors" aren't ALSO making decisions based on ticket sales and what they see is in the long-term best interest of the program? Think they want to see "fan apathy" set in and the atmosphere die? Think they like seeing Davis Wade filled with red and blue like it probably will be on Thanksgiving? Hell, if they are donating millions, wouldn't it stand to reason that they probably want to win MORE than the rest of us?

I just don't see how you can even remotely attempt to disconnect the two things. The only way that would even make sense would be IF the big money people were all going to bat for keeping Mullen right now. They aren't.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:05 pm to
Still trolling the MSU board, I see...
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37001 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:05 pm to
Someone linked the Bulldog Club BOD and the Foundation BOD and a person that was on both was at an engagement party I had to attend last weekend. I probed and gave him every opportunity in the world to bad mouth Mullen and all he kept saying was he didn't like the negatives coming from 2 other mutual friends in the room. He is frustrated but nowhere near cutting this thing loose (Mullen). They have to figure out how to pay for the expansion, though. I am guessing it's 50/50 right now. This is going to be a big year for re-seating. We'll see.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:35 pm to
I've heard of several of them being pretty neutral right now -- just haven't heard of a single staunch Mullen supporter in that group yet.

The question is -- will any of them step up and go to bat for Mullen -- because if one of the 3-4 "leaders" in the group doesn't, I feel like the writing is mostly on the wall right now. Have heard a good bit more in recent days that agrees with that sentiment...

Isn't 50/50 a pretty significant change from your thoughts on this last week?
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37001 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

The question is -- will any of them step up and go to bat for Mullen
There are probably some that are like Bundy and in fetal position over this.

quote:


Isn't 50/50 a pretty significant change from your thoughts on this last week?
What were my thoughts last week? All I remember saying was that if someone wanted to spend $7 million to buy him out, so be it. They won't get a dime of my money for that.

Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:56 pm to
I just thought you were in the faction of saying "no chance that it happens". If I'm wrong about that, my apologies...
Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:59 pm to
I actually trust that you are more in the know than the rest of the people on here. What are the real chances that mullin is gone after this year?
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75649 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

Kyle Whittingham. Pretty well-known that he's had interest in our job.

Are you fricking high?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37001 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

I just thought you were in the faction of saying "no chance that it happens". If I'm wrong about that, my apologies...

I never say no chance. My gut wants to tell me that he is at his ceiling (if you go back 3 or 4 years, you will see I was never a Mullen rah, rah kind of guy) but I seriously think those that know and have to look at the whole deal, he gets this year and has to do something with the schedule next year.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37001 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

I actually trust that you are more in the know than the rest of the people on here. What are the real chances that mullin is gone after this year?
Hey Drew. How is the bride and how is work? But, I really don't know more than most of the folks on here. We are at such a pivotal point with the expansion and fund raising a mistake could be catastrophic but we State fans have been saying "wait until next year" for so long, I think it will work out. Fewer than 7 next year won't hunt.
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