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re: Where do you stand on SEC Realignment?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:23 pm to Farmer1906
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:23 pm to Farmer1906
Ala
Aub
Clem
Fla
Fla St
Ga
GT
LSU
Lou
Mia FL
Mizzou
OMiss
NCar
Okla
OK ST
SCar
Tex
ATM
Tenn
VT
Aub
Clem
Fla
Fla St
Ga
GT
LSU
Lou
Mia FL
Mizzou
OMiss
NCar
Okla
OK ST
SCar
Tex
ATM
Tenn
VT
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:26 pm to DamnStrong1860
Subtract UK and Vandy. Move Auburn to the east. 12 teams are enough.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:27 pm to DamnStrong1860
Let's just fricking get to 16 already. Two of the following: OU, UNC/NCST, Virginia/VT, Duke, Louisville
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:28 pm to Dice410
Can you guys imagine that 20 team league? Flat out nasty!
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:30 pm to DamnStrong1860
how about we just make the SEC a 20 Team League
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:32 pm to DamnStrong1860
Reshuffle divisions.
East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
West
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Missouri
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
It's unbalanced and the East is rather strong, but it'll get all of the old-school rivalries in one place. Here's what I'd do for cross-division games...
Tennessee-Vanderbilt
Mississippi State-Kentucky
LSU-Florida
Ole Miss-Alabama
Texas A&M-Georgia
Missouri-South Carolina
East
Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
Kentucky
South Carolina
Tennessee
West
Arkansas
LSU
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Missouri
Texas A&M
Vanderbilt
It's unbalanced and the East is rather strong, but it'll get all of the old-school rivalries in one place. Here's what I'd do for cross-division games...
Tennessee-Vanderbilt
Mississippi State-Kentucky
LSU-Florida
Ole Miss-Alabama
Texas A&M-Georgia
Missouri-South Carolina
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 pm to Rebel Land Shark
Ok. Let's add VT and Okla St then.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 pm to Dice410
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Ala Aub Clem Fla Fla St Ga GT LSU Lou Mia FL Mizzou OMiss NCar Okla SCar Tex ATM Tenn
The Sooners & Okie State are a package deal.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 pm to Rebel Land Shark
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how about we just make the SEC a 20 Team League
Not sure if you're serious. 14 is plenty. Maybe one or two of the existing members could be traded. Wouldn't mind bringing Georgia Tech back into the fold. Always thought Clemson was a good fit too. 20 teams is just crazy.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:40 pm to DamnStrong1860
10 conference games per team every year would rock!
Posted on 10/19/13 at 12:07 am to DamnStrong1860
I liked it at 12 teams. The first expansion was necessary for the implementation of the conference title game, a change that has reshaped major college football in the intervening years, but the second expansion didn't really seem necessary. No slight on TAMU intended, I just felt the SEC was good the way it was. And Missouri just doesn't feel like an SEC team. We just didn't need to strike out further west or north for two more teams. I understand the advantages of bringing in a Texas team, but Texas really isn't the "South," let alone the "Southeast." The similarities in culture are superficial; only Yankees and West Coasters would lump Texas and the South together.
For all the grief Arkansas gets, I think they're a good cultural fit. Though -- no slight intended again -- I'm not sure USCe was a better fit than Clemson for the SEC. Clemson was always more football-oriented, and, with only a few exceptions (especially the glory years of the late 80s with Elden Campbell, Dale Davis and, of course, Horace Grant), they've been a very poor fit in the basketball-crazed ACC. That said, I have no complaints about USCe as a cultural fit on their own merits.
The charter members are all exactly where they should be. I wouldn't get rid of a single one of them. Even if I supported expansion, there are very few teams I'd take. Certainly not OU or FSU or the North Carolina schools. Miami would be even worse -- they'd have nothing in common with the rest of the SEC. Louisville is closer to a Yankee/Midwest school. I'd take Clemson, of course, but that's about it. Other than that, I'd consider the SEC perfect the way it was two years ago, both culturally and geographically. We got the best one from Florida, the best one from Georgia, the best one from Kentucky, the only viable choices from Alabama/Louisiana/Arkansas/Tennessee/Mississippi, and I'm content with having USCe even if I'd have preferred Clemson.
In short, we're good enough, we're smart enough, and, doggone it, all the right people hate us.
For all the grief Arkansas gets, I think they're a good cultural fit. Though -- no slight intended again -- I'm not sure USCe was a better fit than Clemson for the SEC. Clemson was always more football-oriented, and, with only a few exceptions (especially the glory years of the late 80s with Elden Campbell, Dale Davis and, of course, Horace Grant), they've been a very poor fit in the basketball-crazed ACC. That said, I have no complaints about USCe as a cultural fit on their own merits.
The charter members are all exactly where they should be. I wouldn't get rid of a single one of them. Even if I supported expansion, there are very few teams I'd take. Certainly not OU or FSU or the North Carolina schools. Miami would be even worse -- they'd have nothing in common with the rest of the SEC. Louisville is closer to a Yankee/Midwest school. I'd take Clemson, of course, but that's about it. Other than that, I'd consider the SEC perfect the way it was two years ago, both culturally and geographically. We got the best one from Florida, the best one from Georgia, the best one from Kentucky, the only viable choices from Alabama/Louisiana/Arkansas/Tennessee/Mississippi, and I'm content with having USCe even if I'd have preferred Clemson.
In short, we're good enough, we're smart enough, and, doggone it, all the right people hate us.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 12:27 am to randomways
Honestly, I would be fine with swapping Missouri and Auburn. Let Alabama keep playing Tennessee, and let Auburn get back to playing Florida and Tennessee every year like they used to. Maybe without the updykes playing Auburn every year, fewer trees would have to die.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 1:25 am to uabtodd
Vandy adds one thing that nobody else in the conference adds. It is a private school therefore the SEC does not have to report many things publicly. Every conference has at least one private school for that reason.
With that being said all founding SEC members arent going anywhere as it takes a unanimous vote to kick out. All others require a 75% vote to kick out.
I liked 12 teams, I like 14 now. If we had to got to 16 it is UNC and VT. Clemson would be cool but won't happen as USC won't allow it. FSU had their chance and didn't so they can eat it. Texas fans can eat it to they are way worse than their make cheerleader counterparts.
I also think strong baseball program could be considered as well but not necessarily be a deciding factor
With that being said all founding SEC members arent going anywhere as it takes a unanimous vote to kick out. All others require a 75% vote to kick out.
I liked 12 teams, I like 14 now. If we had to got to 16 it is UNC and VT. Clemson would be cool but won't happen as USC won't allow it. FSU had their chance and didn't so they can eat it. Texas fans can eat it to they are way worse than their make cheerleader counterparts.
I also think strong baseball program could be considered as well but not necessarily be a deciding factor
Posted on 10/19/13 at 1:31 am to DamnStrong1860
I would be fine kicking out MSU and Mizzou(no offense Tigers), to go back to 12 teams.
The only thing I DO NOT want is VA Tech to join.
The only thing I DO NOT want is VA Tech to join.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 1:40 am to Farmer1906
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f we get to 16 then we need 3 divisions.
West A&M, LSU, ARK, MU
East UF, UGA, USC, UNC
Central UA, AU, MSU, OM
North UK, UT, V, VT
I think a 4-2-2 would work right?
Thats 4 divisions and the format would have to be 3-2-2-2. I think the SEC would need a waiver from the NCAA to hold an SEC conference playoff.
If expansion occurs though I imagine this is the route the SEC would take because an SEC conference playoff would make ridiculous amounts of money.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 2:10 am to DamnStrong1860
I'd say kick out Missouri and call it good
Posted on 10/19/13 at 2:35 am to MsState of mind
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With that being said all founding SEC members arent going anywhere as it takes a unanimous vote to kick out. All others require a 75% vote to kick out.
This gets said in every one of these threads and its not true. In the unlikely event any school is going to get booted out of the SEC it just takes a two thirds vote regardless of how long that school has been in the conference.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 2:38 am to WalternateWillie
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football is on the rise. We are not Tulane!
No need to take a shot at the Green Wave...Vanderbilt is 3-3 right now; Tulane is 5-2.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 2:42 am to uabtodd
You should really move on, really. It comes across so little sisterish and you would not want that.
Posted on 10/19/13 at 2:56 am to DamnStrong1860
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If you could reshape this league, who would you add and who would you subtract?
subtract:
arkansas
south carolina
missou
texas a&m
add:
none
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