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re: Have rival fans lost all hope when it comes to stopping Bama's dynasty?

Posted on 10/4/13 at 1:59 am to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23751 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 1:59 am to
Croom beat a few teams he wasn't supposed to. Problem is he didn't do it enough and lost to some he shouldn't have.

Who is Sabin by the way?

And when Mississippi State actually wins something come on back. That means we will never see you again.
Posted by STATEofMIND
Member since Oct 2012
4234 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 2:05 am to
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Who is Sabin by the way? And when Mississippi State actually wins something come on back. That means we will never see you again.


WOW sure got me on the auto correct "SABAN"

Sounds like I struck a nerve with the mullets thing All fun and games #UnRustleYourJimmes
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
17940 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 3:02 am to
2 in the last 4 years*, but still, conference championships aren't the main measuring stick for a college football dynasty.

Alabama has won more NCs in the past 4 seasons than LSU has in the last 50 years.Besta recognize.
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3695 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 7:57 am to
You haven't been as dominant as you would like to think. You've backed into the championship game 2 out of the 3 trips.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 8:26 am to
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2 in the last 4 years*, but still, conference championships aren't the main measuring stick for a college football dynasty.


Just about every single national title can be questioned. No sec champ has ever been questioned.
You think a bcs title is the end all be all and the coaches an players have very little control over winning the BCS title. The only title every sec team controls it's destiny on is the seccg. No on respects a national title when you weren't even champ of your own division , let alone conference. I guess you've forgotten that after bama was gifted a BCSCG appearance( solely by media and voting bias because Oklahoma st had a far better resume) every single conf president demanded change.
Posted by taylormade
Tumbleton
Member since Jan 2011
9803 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 8:27 am to
imagine this guy yelling at you!

Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37697 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 8:47 am to
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Just about every single national title can be questioned. No sec champ has ever been questioned.
You think a bcs title is the end all be all and the coaches an players have very little control over winning the BCS title. The only title every sec team controls it's destiny on is the seccg. No on respects a national title when you weren't even champ of your own division , let alone conference. I guess you've forgotten that after bama was gifted a BCSCG appearance( solely by media and voting bias because Oklahoma st had a far better resume) every single conf president demanded change.


This is just patently ridculous and full of LSU homerism....if you want to bag on Bama's national titles then OK....so if we are measuring by SEC titles bama is even more succesful by your definition as we have 23 SEC titles...or are you gonna dispute that to?

Its retarded to claim winning the SEC is more imporatnt than a national title becuase you haven't played the top dog from the Pac, B1G, Bevo12, Notre Dame or wherever....you can't say an SEC title is more important when its a regional conference championship and you haven't played the best from another conference like Texas, tOSU, Oregon, USC, or Notre Dame.....you don't know your the best until you have beat the best and the best is not exculsively the SEC.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 8:50 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:17 am to
This is just patently ridculous and full of LSU homerism....if you want to bag on Bama's national titles then OK....so if we are measuring by SEC titles bama is even more succesful by your definition as we have 23 SEC titles...or are you gonna dispute that to?

I've always said Bama's 23 sec titles are far more impressive than all those bogus MNC. Also the bcs title is subjective as hell. You get voted into. The coaches and players have very little control over making the BCSCG. Take last year for example, had ohio state not self imposed a bowl ban, the BCSCG would've been Notre same vs Ohio state. Would bama being left out of the BCSCG changed the fact that bama was the best team last year? frick no. The national title in in cfb is the most hollow trophy in all of sports. Every single year , as soon as the game BCSCG is over, there is a debate on if the VOTERS GOT THE TWO TEAMS RIGHT. Do you know what you never hear questioned? Who won the sec. The bcs is bull shite and I haven't cared about it since 2004. This is just my opinion.

ETA: I'd rather win back to back sec titles than one bcs title any day. It's far more rare and can't be questioned.
This post was edited on 10/4/13 at 9:19 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:20 am to
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Its retarded to claim winning the SEC is more imporatnt than a national title becuase you haven't played the top dog from the Pac, B1G, Bevo12, Notre Dame or wherever....you can't say an SEC title is more important when its a regional conference championship and you haven't played the best from another conference like Texas, tOSU, Oregon, USC, or Notre Dame.....you don't know your the best until you have beat the best and the best is not exculsively the SEC. This post was edited on 10/4 at 8:50 am



Ha ha this is funny. In 2011 lsu destroyed the PAC 12 champ and rose bowl winner and destroyed the big east champ and orange bowl winner.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37697 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:22 am to
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Ha ha this is funny. In 2011 lsu destroyed the PAC 12 champ and rose bowl winner and destroyed the big east champ and orange bowl winner.


Sucks for you that your team couldn't get it done against the SEC West runner-up
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:29 am to
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Sucks for you that your team couldn't get it done against the SEC West runner-up
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Doesn't bother me. In 20 years people will look back and see bama couldn't even win their division. National titles in cfb have been questioned since the birth of cfb. Sec titles have never been questioned. You don't get media biased into the seccg.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37697 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:41 am to
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Doesn't bother me. In 20 years people will look back and see bama couldn't even win their division. National titles in cfb have been questioned since the birth of cfb. Sec titles have never been questioned. You don't get media biased into the seccg.


Yeah well however you get into the game you gotta win it when you are there.....LSU fans will bitch about 2011 and rightfully so....but Bama fans have been jobbed out of two titles in 66 and 77 for,... wait for it,.... Notre Dame. read up on those seasons if you don't believe me. The BCS' job is to match-up the two best teams in college football and that is what happened in 2011. Was it fair that Bama had to play Notre Dame who didn't even play in a conference championship...we had to play an extra game against UGA to get into the title game.

While the SEC has been dominant for a few years now, it certainly wasn't always the case. So to say winning the SEC is the most important thing is ridiculous...what if everyone in the entire SEC sucks?....but the PAC or Texas or tOSU or Notre Dame gets hot again?......there has to be a national champion determined.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10178 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:43 am to
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Is hoping that the NCAA somehow stops the cheating


FIFU
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42012 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:43 am to
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The BCS' job is to match-up the two best teams in college football and that is what happened in 2011.


For the millionth time...just no
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37697 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:53 am to
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For the millionth time...just no


Yeah...you're right....LSU should never have been in that game.

Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7624 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 9:58 am to
Haha. If we could totally shut bamas fanbase down to the point of not having to listen to them the football team would be more interesting!
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4629 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:20 am to
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Is hoping that the NCAA somehow stops it the only hope they have left?


In two of the last three legitimate meetings Bama has lost to LSU.

Bama was not deserving of a spot in the 2011 BCS national championship but a media jihad put them in. Btw I believe that Bama was the "best" team that year, and I give them all props for their performance in their "do-over"

In 2012 Bama, LSU and Texas A&M were all tied head to head. The difference was that a schedule change allowed Bama to drop Georgia and replace them with Mizzou. While LSU (which was know to have a stronger permanent opponent for that year) lost Kentucky and picked up USC, a much tougher team.

Any Bama fan who cannot admit that their team received a huge advantage in this change is simply a liar. Any Bama fan that denies Mark Womacks connections to Alabama don't at least raise some questions is a liar.

And any Bama's fan whose retort to LSU fans complaining about this is "stop whining" is only doing so because they know there is really no defense for what happened and they know it at the least "looks suspicious".


Yes, all the rumors surround Julio jones, the Landon Collins situation and other recruiting violations....that stuff does go on everywhere....maybe Bama is a little worse, maybe there not.

But when it comes down to it Bama has gotten some huge off the field "breaks" some of which may be tied to favoritism over the last two years, and also this year with the schedule.

Maybe nothing can be done about those but if karma comes into play and they catch it somewhere else...well that's just the universe making things right

Posted by RT58
Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
3674 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:21 am to
Very perceptive of you. Now have another
Shot of Jack so we can see more of your
Intelligence
Posted by natchampsagain
Member since Sep 2013
36 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 10:51 am to
Who does LSYou play the wekk before Bama and the week before A&M? Who made that schedule?
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4629 posts
Posted on 10/4/13 at 11:32 am to
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Sucks for you that your team couldn't get it done TWICE against the SEC West runner-up


FIFY.

We got it done against them when it supposedly counted. Had what was perhaps the most accomplished regular seasons in College Football history. Our "reward" was having to play an extra game to earn our spot in the BCS championship and having our earlier victory on your home turf nullified.

The ONLY two advantages Bama had over OSU were a "better loss" and that people subjectively thought they were the better team.
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