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re: Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:47 am to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:47 am to BamaGradinTn
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Still not the same as getting it from a few boosters who can take their money and their ball and go home the first time they get pissed off.
So lets say a business wants to drop sponsorship because of situation where they dont want an indivual to represent them. Is that not the same?
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:47 am to BamaGradinTn
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Funding from a few select private boosters as was going to be the case with Fisher...absolutely not. Why did UAB have to resort to getting the money from a few private boosters instead of their own legitimate organization like Tigers Unlimited or Tide Pride?
Since you are determined to act a fool and look stupid, I will help you out.
UAB could most definitely afford Fisher. The boosters only stepped up to avoid giving the UAT board an excuse not to hire him. Didn't matter at the end of the day though.
In 2004, Mike Anderson, the bball coach had a total compensation package of up to $775,000 which the UAT BOT signed off on.
The UAT BOT forced a vastly unqualified an inferior Calloway on UAB for just under $400k instead of $600k for Fisher. That measly $200k difference (which was a GREAT bargain) would have been made up within about 1 month of the first year of Fisher's contract with ticket sales. And the UAB boosters even raised the cash to make it CHEAPER for Fisher than Calloway.
To argue it was about money is ludicris. Plain and simple.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:48 am to NYCAuburn
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Playing in T-Town will garner the same amount of revenue, no matter which minor team they play. only difference is how much Bama pays that team to come play
It would bring more money into Tuscaloosa if all the visiting fans and players have to get a hotel and stay at least one night.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:50 am to NYCAuburn
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NYCAuburn
Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?
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Still not the same as getting it from a few boosters who can take their money and their ball and go home the first time they get pissed off.
So lets say a business wants to drop sponsorship because of situation where they dont want an indivual to represent them. Is that not the same?
Obviously not. Businesses generally operate with significantly more transparency., and those businesses' budgeting and donation decisions are rarely made by one individual.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:50 am to BamaGradinTn
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I think you've already demonstrated who the stupid one in this thread is. Quoting that idiot blogger was the icing on the cake. You've got to be one fricking retard to think it would ever be a good idea to rely on a few boosters to pay the bulk of a coach's salary.
I have given quotes from Lindys, CBS Sportline, the "idiot blogger" who was an ESPN producer, and the Bham news so far.
I have a quote ready from Jon Soloman, Alabama's own beat writer I am saving for the right moment as well.
Now, tell me again who is the illogical dumbass that is making shite up because he thinks it makes bama look better??
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:51 am to pvilleguru
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It would bring more money into Tuscaloosa if all the visiting fans and players have to get a hotel and stay at least one night.
Lets be honest how many fans from an opposing fanbase of the UAB variety actaully come, outside of family? And How much money does the University make off those hotel stays and restaurant visits?
FWIW, I have no dog in this fight, just trying to be a little objective
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:53 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Tiger n Miami AU83
Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?
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Funding from a few select private boosters as was going to be the case with Fisher...absolutely not. Why did UAB have to resort to getting the money from a few private boosters instead of their own legitimate organization like Tigers Unlimited or Tide Pride?
Since you are determined to act a fool and look stupid, I will help you out.
UAB could most definitely afford Fisher. The boosters only stepped up to avoid giving the UAT board an excuse not to hire him. Didn't matter at the end of the day though.
In 2004, Mike Anderson, the bball coach had a total compensation package of up to $775,000 which the UAT BOT signed off on.
The UAT BOT forced a vastly unqualified an inferior Calloway on UAB for just under $400k instead of $600k for Fisher. That measly $200k difference (which was a GREAT bargain) would have been made up within about 1 month of the first year of Fisher's contract with ticket sales. And the UAB boosters even raised the cash to make it CHEAPER for Fisher than Calloway.
To argue it was about money is ludicris. Plain and simple.
The only ludicrous thing in the discussion is to suggest that somehow Bryant or any other trustee actually feared competition from UAB.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:55 am to BamaGradinTn
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Obviously not. Businesses generally operate with significantly more transparency., and those businesses' budgeting and donation decisions are rarely made by one individual.
you must not have seen the multitude of individuals who have lost corporate sponsorship because of omething they said or did, in the past 10, 20, 30, etc.. yearsPosted on 5/9/13 at 10:55 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Tiger n Miami AU83
Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?
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I think you've already demonstrated who the stupid one in this thread is. Quoting that idiot blogger was the icing on the cake. You've got to be one fricking retard to think it would ever be a good idea to rely on a few boosters to pay the bulk of a coach's salary.
I have given quotes from Lindys, CBS Sportline, the "idiot blogger" who was an ESPN producer, and the Bham news so far.
I have a quote ready from Jon Soloman, Alabama's own beat writer I am saving for the right moment as well.
Now, tell me again who is the illogical dumbass that is making shite up because he thinks it makes bama look better??
It's not as case of making Bama look better. Bama doesn't have to be made to look better in this discussion. Very few people give a shite about UAB football, and that's never going to change. The notion that anyone at UA thought they were ever going to be a competitor to be feared is mindless.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:58 am to NYCAuburn
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NYCAuburn
Spinoff Thread: Why not UAB?
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Obviously not. Businesses generally operate with significantly more transparency., and those businesses' budgeting and donation decisions are rarely made by one individual.
you must not have seen the multitude of individuals who have lost corporate sponsorship because of omething they said or did, in the past 10, 20, 30, etc.. years
Of course teams have lost corporate sponsorship. But as I said, those decisions are made with transparency and generally more than one person at the corporation who in turn is accountable to that corporation's board...a far cry from just one booster who may become disgruntled.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:58 am to BamaGradinTn
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The only ludicrous thing in the discussion is to suggest that somehow Bryant or any other trustee actually feared competition from UAB.
Nope. It is the only sensible conclusion to draw. Many bama fans will admit to this as well.
Bama fears competition from UAB. Bama knows UAB will never be an equal or true rival, but Bryant Jr and the BOT do not want to take any chances or give UAB a chance to build a respectable program. And that is obvious to everyone. Except a few gumps that will argue the world is flat if they think it helps alabama FOOTBALL. Not the university itself which is an afterthought for MOST gumps (excluding actual grads here).
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:03 am to NYCAuburn
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Lets be honest how many fans from an opposing fanbase of the UAB variety actaully come, outside of family? And How much money does the University make off those hotel stays and restaurant visits?
They would bring a few hundred people, depending on the school and distance. I heard the mayor of Tuscaloosa speak a year or so. He said the estimate the average person that visits the city and stays for one night spends x dollars (can't remember what it was). That adds up when you bring at least 500 people for a football game. I'm sure the university doesn't make that much from it, but it really helps the city. As the AD, I would definitely take that into consideration and for that reason alone, I probably wouldn't schedule any instate teams besides Auburn.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:03 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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facts are presented that make bama look bad
I don't think anybody besides yourself gives the slightest frick about the relationship between the Alabama BOT and UAB.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:04 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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but Bryant Jr and the BOT do not want to take any chances or give UAB a chance to build a respectable program.
I'm ok with this.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:12 am to Projectpat
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You're a bad troll and you should feel bad.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:54 am to NYCAuburn
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just trying to be a little objective
This is clearly the wrong thread to be objective in.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:03 pm to cyde
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This is clearly the wrong thread to be objective in.
Wel I wasnt falling into the other trappings of this thread
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:03 pm to bigpapamac
quote:TiM is definitely the ONLY one that gives a shite about UAB football. Hell, it looks like UAB's own fans don't care enough to show up and support the players and coaches they have now.
I don't think anybody besides yourself gives the slightest frick about the relationship between the Alabama BOT and UAB.
For the life of me, I can't understand why TiM wastes so much energy on this UA/UAB shite?
BTW, mean ole Paul Bryant, JR & the UA BOT damn sure helped Fisher dodge what could have been a career ending coaching decision. Fisher is probably thanking his lucky stars that that UAB job was thwarted.:yikes:
This post was edited on 5/9/13 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:23 pm to TigerJames
Sewanee is a solid school, academically speaking, & an original member of the SEC.....Why not include them as long as we're at it...........
Posted on 5/9/13 at 12:24 pm to bamamark86
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Sewanee
do they have a team?
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