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re: John Cohen... Still a complete joke
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:00 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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Yeah that game winning 2-run HR was MSU losing more than us winning
Not to even scratch the surface of LSU having 4 errors (which they counted 1), hit MSU 7 times and walked them 3 times. We put MSU on base freely 13 times last night, and they still only managed 4 runs.
Pitching to a guy in the 10th with ?how many? homeruns in the last 5 games? Yes, that's a mental error on Cox -- a soph who has never pitcher in such a situation before. Not having Holder or Bracewell throwing in that situation was ridiculous.
How about the error on the double play ball that gets us out of the 7th?
How about the back to back wild pitches that allowed the game to be tied in the 7th after the failed double play?
How about the swinging bunt that our pitcher threw into right that allowed Katz to hit with a RISP in the 6th...instead of leading off the 7th?
How about then throwing to Katz with a 3-1 count and first base open?
How about hitting into 4 double plays in a single game, 3 by one player hitting in the 6-hole?
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they still only managed 4 runs.
Just another way in which we beat ourselves, despite being in the driver's seat consistently over the entire game. Hitting into 4 double plays is ridiculous -- and a surefire way to lose games in and of itself.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:03 pm to fbb
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This is interesting. Is your position that Cohen would have prevented Skip Bertman from building up LSU?
He might not could have prevented it -- but he wouldn't have squandered the head start that we had the same way Polk did. He certainly would have prevented the Ole Miss build to a large extent. Polk just quit recruiting. His entire second tenure here, all he did was recruit players out of his baseball camps without ever really leaving campus.
Polk was mediocre from the day that John Cohen walked off the field(as a player) in Rosenblatt in 1990 forward. That's when he really should have left. The 4 best years we saw after that were the McMahon years -- who ended up not even being good enough to keep his job at Florida.
This post was edited on 3/16/13 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:06 pm to engie
Dear Lord! Skip would have ate Cohen and his young! That's like comparing Moses to Big Poppa
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:10 pm to DMagic
Sorry, should have preceded it with an age warning! Forget some of the posters here are still counting on fingers
This post was edited on 3/16/13 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:13 pm to LSUNV
No I know who Skip is. Who is Moses and who is Big Poppa? Are you comparing a Jewish legend to the Notorious B.I.G?
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:14 pm to DMagic
One is a prophet and the other is a thug
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:20 pm to engie
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Pitching to a guy in the 10th with ?how many? homeruns in the last 5 games? Yes, that's a mental error on Cox -- a soph who has never pitcher in such a situation before. Not having Holder or Bracewell throwing in that situation was ridiculous.
He didn't mean to throw that pitch he did OBVIOUSLY. The catcher was setup in a different location than where the pitch ended up. It was by accident, not every pitcher hits every pitch they want to. That's baseball. You didn't "lose" because you pitched Katz. Katz took a mistake pitch and made you pay. That's us WINNING. You didnt throw the ball out of the park.
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How about the error on the double play ball that gets us out of the 7th?
How about the back to back wild pitches that allowed the game to be tied in the 7th after the failed double play?
How about the swinging bunt that our pitcher threw into right that allowed Katz to hit with a RISP in the 6th...instead of leading off the 7th?
How about then throwing to Katz with a 3-1 count and first base open?
How about hitting into 4 double plays in a single game, 3 by one player hitting in the 6-hole?
Once again, 4 errors, 7 hit batters and 3 walks whcih led to us putting you on base FREELEY 13 times last night, almost double the amount of actual hits you had. IF you want to claim any team was "losing the game" last night it was us.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:25 pm to engie
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How about the back to back wild pitches that allowed the game to be tied in the 7th after the failed double play?
What LSU fans remember about that is having first and third with no outs and not getting the go-ahead run.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:30 pm to bfniii
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i get the impression you think the two programs are basically equal.
Do I think we are? No.
Do I think we should be? Probably pretty close.
Do I think we can rise back to that level? Who the heck knows. We were there -- and we squandered it over 2 decades of mediocrity and lost all our built-in advantages -- and are now playing catch-up.
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the only reason it looks close right now is because lsu is basically "down" compared to the last 20 years.
We've basically been "down" for the last 20 years. And what's our head to head over that time period? You've been far from dominant against us. The last 5-6 years have been your best against us overall in history, I'd imagine.
I think we are and should be a consistent top 15 baseball program -- leading back toward us eventually being consistently back in the top 10 and a yearly threat for Omaha(and to do damage there). That's what we expect going forward -- and we won't accept less at this point. It was a tough rebuild for Cohen -- and this is his first complete team at MSU -- and the first truly complete team we've had in a long arse time. We'll see where it leads.
This post was edited on 3/16/13 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:30 pm to fbb
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What LSU fans remember about that is having first and third with no outs and not getting the go-ahead run.
Yet another example of LSU losing and not MSU winning
amirite?
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:31 pm to Keltic Tiger
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I was suprised at the relatively "low" attendance, however.
Its spring break dude and Starkville doesn't have the high local population to maintain crowds like other areas such as baton rouge or Fayetteville. We had a lot of fans from out of town there, but very few students. Had the students been there, we would have had about 10K.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:32 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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After LSU swept y'all last year
They didn't sweep us last year. They took 2 of 3
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:35 pm to DMagic
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Cohen is Jewish fwiw
Manieri is a nazi, so that explains the hate between the 2.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:41 pm to DMagic
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Cohen is Jewish
You mean Pagan
Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:05 pm to engie
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engie
Nothing to see here, just sticking my head in for my afternoon laugh
Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:19 pm to DMagic
I hear manieri's father was Mussolini's secret advisor.
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