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re: John Cohen... Still a complete joke
Posted on 3/16/13 at 6:49 pm to Broyota2
Posted on 3/16/13 at 6:49 pm to Broyota2
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You are taking the Internet WAY to seriously today
How?
I enjoy actual thought-provoking discussion -- and this is fun for me.
When I "discuss", it's surrounded by enough circumstantial data and evidence that it's a bitch to effectively argue against even when an opposing viewpoint is just as valid. The OM people here know this, hence why they provided warnings when I first showed up in this thread.
One of these days, I'm going to get around to posting a picture of an all-time OM baseball great decked out in LSU gear as a kid. Maybe for the OM/LSU baseball series?
Posted on 3/16/13 at 6:55 pm to engie
Your data in response to my post was distorting the accurate paraphrase I gave. Proof:
The most moral of all the victories.
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"Well when (the coaching staff) arrived here at MSU, we wanted to pitch it better than our opponents,” MSU head coach John Cohen said. “That is certainly the case in our ballpark, because it plays so big. We are now getting to that point. Even though we only won one game, we out-pitched LSU the entire series.
The most moral of all the victories.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 8:17 pm to engie
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You obviously don't have a clue about our monetary situation in regards to baseball
quote:if fla, tex a&m, lsu, texas, etc, decided to, they could raise twice the money that state has available. it's not even close. it doesn't matter what state has "earmarked" right now. other schools have significantly more resources and if state started to outspend them, they could up the ante to a level that state could never reach.
We've got earmarked money for baseball to compete with anyone in the country
in fact, it's kind of happening right now. heck, even ole miss is keeping pace with state, all things considered. look at the rise scar and ark.
this is why my statement is correct. state doesn't have the resources to sustain the kind of success that your delusional mind thinks they can. it is reasonable to say that actual results support this theory.
quote:google sec athletic budgets.
Absolute insanity right here
quote:you are really, really proud of state's above average baseball history. again, state had good success with polk but, hasn't done anything in omaha which is what counts ultimately. having said that, state is clearly one of the better programs in the nation.
it took you 25 years to surpass the first time
Posted on 3/16/13 at 8:29 pm to bfniii
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if fla, tex a&m, lsu, texas, etc, decided to, they could raise twice the money that state has available.
In baseball? We can raise money with anyone.
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it doesn't matter what state has "earmarked" right now. other schools have significantly more resources and if state started to outspend them, they could up the ante to a level that state could never reach.
You really haven't kept up with MSU very closely have you? Not many schools have experienced growth rates of the past 10 years higher than MSU has. In fact, on endowment growth, only Arkansas in the SEC has matched us over that timeframe. We've got more money than we've ever had before -- and we care greatly about baseball.
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in fact, it's kind of happening right now. heck, even ole miss is keeping pace with state, all things considered. look at the rise scar and ark.
So, their "rise" in baseball interest in some way limits MSU's ability to do the same?
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google sec athletic budgets.
We've raised $70 mil the past two years in our private athletics fundraising arm(the Bulldog Club). This is on pace with EVERYONE else in the SEC. It's not a second-rate operation anymore. Our overall revenue will still probably always be lower because of the lack of premium seating and overall capacity in football that we're now adding(to an extent) and the lack of premium seating in basketball.
This still has jackshit to do with baseball, where we've been profitable for 30 years now -- have a chairback waiting list a mile long -- and sold out the skyboxes on day 1 with zero cancellations.
We can and will afford to build a palace in that sport.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 8:38 pm to engie
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We've raised $70 mil the past two years in our private athletics fundraising arm(the Bulldog Club). This is on pace with EVERYONE else in the SEC
Not trying to start anything, but that is not on pace with everyone. Our budget was 75,800,000 for one year which more than doubled yours. Bama was 93,000,000. So again, how is that on pace?
This post was edited on 3/16/13 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 3/16/13 at 8:42 pm to LSUNV
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Not trying to start anything, but that is not on pace with everyone. Our budget was 75,800,000 for one year which more than doubled yours. Bama was 93,000,000. So again, how is that on pace?
You need to understand the difference between "budget" which is mostly expected expenses and "private athletics fundraising" which is money largely raised specifically to build nice things.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 9:04 pm to engie
Well if that is the case, then Our TAF raised enough money for our stadium upgrade and gave 12 million to the university. So again I am not seeing the on pace part! But no worries, state has always had great Baseball tradition. That will not change anytime soon
Posted on 3/16/13 at 10:56 pm to fbb
Forrest Moore said he was an a-hole so I believe it
Posted on 3/16/13 at 10:59 pm to engie
If all of these things are true......then how in the hell has state been so average for so long??
You speak of the priorities of your university as far as baseball is concerned, i.e. chair back waiting lists, sold out luxury boxes and such, then absolutely lay an egg in attendance in a weekend sec series against a consensus top 5 ranked opponent. Your excuse???? Spring break! Doesn't sound like much of a priority to me. Top notch programs don't have to blame spring break for piss poor attendance for one of the biggest series of the year.
Fact of the matter is.....State has a decent program, but not NEAR what you claim it to be and not in the same universe with LSU.
You speak of the priorities of your university as far as baseball is concerned, i.e. chair back waiting lists, sold out luxury boxes and such, then absolutely lay an egg in attendance in a weekend sec series against a consensus top 5 ranked opponent. Your excuse???? Spring break! Doesn't sound like much of a priority to me. Top notch programs don't have to blame spring break for piss poor attendance for one of the biggest series of the year.
Fact of the matter is.....State has a decent program, but not NEAR what you claim it to be and not in the same universe with LSU.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 11:04 pm to CROWN N COKE
Its funny to see all this "we raised this much money; our school has this much money for athletics; etc...How many of you are donating this money???? Its kind of a hypocritcial argument..
Posted on 3/16/13 at 11:36 pm to CajunRebel
What was the score tonight? I missed it
Posted on 3/16/13 at 11:45 pm to Elleshoe
glad I stumbled along this thread. lots of lolzzzzz up in here
Posted on 3/17/13 at 12:49 am to engie
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He said that he thought we were the better team -- gave you all that bulletin board material -- and he then proved it at Hoover(twice) against your coach that was widely fancied by LSU fans as unbeatable in the SEC tournament.
I like that you think what happens in the SEC tournament matters. It's cool to win it.. but it doesn't mean anything.
Posted on 3/17/13 at 9:17 am to engie
quote:you don't seem to understand that there is no imaginary line between the sports. again, if the big schools decided to, they could raise more money for baseball than ms state could even dream about. this is not debateable. it's called athletic budget and resources. state is in the lower half of the conference in this regard. texas could BUY the sec if they wanted to.
In baseball? We can raise money with anyone
quote:show me the numbers because i'm not seeing it.
In fact, on endowment growth, only Arkansas in the SEC has matched us over that timeframe.
quote:which is of course irrelevant to the other schools in the conference or texas.
We've got more money than we've ever had before
quote:what i'm pointing out is that other schools are easily keeping pace with state in regards to baseball so state isn't this paragon you're making it out to be.
So, their "rise" in baseball interest in some way limits MSU's ability to do the same?
quote:you're still missing the point. first, other schools could eclipse state if they wanted to. easily. second, if state is raising so much bank, why aren't the results showing on the field. heck, lsu took a mediocre team (by lsu standards) to the supers last year.
This is on pace with EVERYONE else in the SEC
quote:my point exactly
lack of premium seating
quote:and the schools in the top half of the conference could build double what state can afford. again, this is not debateable. i asked you to google athletic budgets and income. state is in the bottom half of the conference. in fact, state is typically near the bottom. granted, that's much better than 80% of the schools in the nation. but that's not good enough for omaha threat every year like you're saying because if it were, it would be actually happening.
We can and will afford to build a palace in that sport
Posted on 3/17/13 at 6:31 pm to bfniii
John Cohen... throwing at the head of a kid that is butt fricking your team That's why LSU is a championship team and State hasn't been worth a frick since Ron Polk left. But hey, at least you got by big brother to finally win one game!
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