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Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:55 am to 11Will44
Who "owns" the state in terms of what? UTex isn't "the" state university--we have two flagship systems (established by the state of Texas).
If you're talking about fandom in Texas, you're basically going to find two equally balanced groups on Thanksgiving: Aggies & Longhorns ... with Ags tending to be the more "George Bush Presidential Library" types, and horns being the "LBJ Presidential Library, gender neutral restrooms on campus" types. Regardless of how the sports teams are playing, half of the state will prob always be owned by A&M, and half will be owned by UTex.
If you're talking about fandom in Texas, you're basically going to find two equally balanced groups on Thanksgiving: Aggies & Longhorns ... with Ags tending to be the more "George Bush Presidential Library" types, and horns being the "LBJ Presidential Library, gender neutral restrooms on campus" types. Regardless of how the sports teams are playing, half of the state will prob always be owned by A&M, and half will be owned by UTex.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 10:26 am
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:09 am to 11Will44
We own the state right now.
Look at the Governor's office and much of the Texas power structure. An Aggie is on Texas's BOR and Perry is trying to ruin them with his 10k degree plan (not that I support that).
That result was inevitable as Texas is a very red state and A&M is a much more conservative school. We got to dump them and the kids for a reason. They will get back power in 25 years when whites are the minority in the state.
Athletically they are on top, but the SEC move changed the dynamic from Michigan/Michigan St. to UF/FSU.
Look at the Governor's office and much of the Texas power structure. An Aggie is on Texas's BOR and Perry is trying to ruin them with his 10k degree plan (not that I support that).
That result was inevitable as Texas is a very red state and A&M is a much more conservative school. We got to dump them and the kids for a reason. They will get back power in 25 years when whites are the minority in the state.
Athletically they are on top, but the SEC move changed the dynamic from Michigan/Michigan St. to UF/FSU.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 10:17 am
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:24 am to DaleDenton
Get off Texas' dick you idiot
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:00 am to DaleDenton
Dale.., wrong in all counts, Texas had/ has no intention of joining the SEC... Also look at the size/ alumni bases / resources of the schools now.. VERY even
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:08 am to burbank
If you're going to spend much time on the rant, you're going to want to learn to ignore Dale Denton.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:16 am to Jobu93
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Our move has hurt Oklahoma the most; I think ut's wounds are largely self inflicted right now.
this is the correct answer.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:56 am to 11Will44
It's UT, A&M is the flavor of the month. They will never surpass UT in popularity even if they win the next 100.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:09 pm to bigDgator
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It's UT, A&M is the flavor of the month. They will never surpass UT in popularity even if they win the next 100.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:30 pm to 11Will44
I think because of their presence in the SEC, it's aggies all the way.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:30 pm to 11Will44
Someone pointed it out earlier in this thread but I think it requires some additional elaboration.
Texas A&M to the SEC is going to hurt OU a lot more than Texas initially. Texas is still going to pull in recruits but now A&M has a solid edge over in state recruits to OU that we didn't have before. Over time this will decrease the strength of the OU program unless they are able to increase their national recruitment to make up for lost Texas players (not looking like it so far).
As the quality of the OU program decreases so shall Texas's over time. It's a principle the SEC has had set for a while now. Good match-ups make better programs. The bigger games your team is in, then the more exposure you get. The more exposure you get, the more hype your team brings in.. etc etc. You get the point.
The OU-Texas rivalry is really all that holds up the Big XII at this point anyways. Once that game wanes and becomes not as significant in the national spot-light.. well it doesn't look too good for those two teams or the conference for that matter.
Time will tell and we'll see.. Texas can bring in a new coach and get things back to where they are used to being. But even then, a potentially weakened OU will still be their downfall if that is the way things turn out.
Texas A&M to the SEC is going to hurt OU a lot more than Texas initially. Texas is still going to pull in recruits but now A&M has a solid edge over in state recruits to OU that we didn't have before. Over time this will decrease the strength of the OU program unless they are able to increase their national recruitment to make up for lost Texas players (not looking like it so far).
As the quality of the OU program decreases so shall Texas's over time. It's a principle the SEC has had set for a while now. Good match-ups make better programs. The bigger games your team is in, then the more exposure you get. The more exposure you get, the more hype your team brings in.. etc etc. You get the point.
The OU-Texas rivalry is really all that holds up the Big XII at this point anyways. Once that game wanes and becomes not as significant in the national spot-light.. well it doesn't look too good for those two teams or the conference for that matter.
Time will tell and we'll see.. Texas can bring in a new coach and get things back to where they are used to being. But even then, a potentially weakened OU will still be their downfall if that is the way things turn out.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:39 pm to 11Will44
Texas has the hardware.
Texas leads the series by 39 games.
Texas owns the state.
Texas leads the series by 39 games.
Texas owns the state.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:40 pm to 11Will44
The better team at the time owns the state. Right now A&M is better, therefore we own the mindless bandwagon fans at the moment.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:01 pm to 11Will44
The rant really has very little understanding of our rivalry.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:03 pm to USMC Gators
Really Florida fan? You'd say your program owns Florida today, right? Did they pre-1996 when they had 0 National Titles?
Things can and do change.
Things can and do change.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:06 pm to texasaggie08
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Really Florida fan? You'd say your program owns Florida today, right? Did they pre-1996 when they had 0 National Titles?
Except we still had the series lead over FSU.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:08 pm to reb13
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I want to beat UT SO bad next year.
I'll be at that game in my LSU gear tigerbaiting every om douche i see
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:10 pm to Daowna
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Texas can bring in a new coach and get things back to where they are used to being.
Their next hire will be huge. Right now they can still turn things around pretty easily. But if they go through an extended downturn at this specific moment in history it could really hurt their program long term for the reasons you mentioned.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:11 pm to 11Will44
People that only care about A&M owning the state are not thinking right, and I hope they don't run things. If A&M wins the West and the SEC, owning the state is secondary. Becoming a nationally recognized brand with a powerhouse football program with hardware to back it up is all that matters. That Texas-only thinking was for the SWC and Big 12 days.
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