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re: Excuse my ignorance but why is there so little football talent in Tennessee?

Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33956 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:16 am to
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Who has the map of the amount of respectable African American youth in the south?


Want to take a look at Tennessee on that map.


Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:30 am to
A lot of the talent that Tennessee has is from private schools in the Memphis and Nashville areas. Knoxville is decent, but most of the talent is from a few schools like Maryville & Alcoa. It seems like UT doesn't seem to go after the local talent, especially around Knoxville. For example, Randall Cobb is from Alcoa and UT let snatch him up from their own backyard. Harrison Smith (current Vikings safety) is from Catholic HS in Knoxville and Notre Dame got him.

The talent in Knoxville has dropped since about 2007/2008 though.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:39 am to
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About 17% of Tennessee is AA


they most certainly love their whiskey in tennessee

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Memphis and Nashville certainly seemed to have some "urban" areas when I have been there previously.


memphis hs coaches send their recruits to bama (after appropriate payment has been received). nashville kids are into soccer, steeple chase, cricket and ice hockey.

Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22378 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:45 am to
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Want to take a look at Tennessee on that map.


Memphis and nothing else.
Posted by cheezag03
H-town
Member since Sep 2011
608 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:46 am to
Are you trying to say that Nashville is a bunch of yankees and Tennessee is really just South Kentucky?
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
805 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:49 am to
Memphis is closer to 6 or 7 more SEC schools than Knoxville. It's basically a city in Ark. or Miss. to most Tennesseans. This year Tennessee has more above average recruits then other years.

ETA: Losing in-state recruits is one of the main reasons Fulmer was canned. He refused to recruit Patrick Willis, Harrison Smith, Randall Cobb, etc while losing out on Donte Hightower and other high level in-state recruits.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 11:57 am
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:51 am to
They're Yankees. They would rather play Toothless Canadian Icecapades in high school than a real man's sport. Or drink bourbon.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25289 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:52 am to
Take a look at Fat Phil's recruiting strategy when UT was a top tier program.

Fulmer always snagged top out of state talent - I think it's no secret why he focused on other regions.

Tennessee just isn't a great HS football state.
Posted by Domination
Member since Mar 2009
1260 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:55 am to
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Have you ever seen the children produced from inbreeding?


I work in KY, so yes, quite regularly. What of your kin?
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:56 am to
Fulmers UT got in the bad habit of recruiting nationally.

I can imagine a lot of Tenn HS coaches getting a little offended when Tenn was going across country for a kid they deemed better than the local talent.
Posted by Shockley03
Knoxville, TN
Member since Oct 2012
703 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:57 am to
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Fulmer always snagged top out of state talent - I think it's no secret why he focused on other regions.


You still should have a lock on the top in-state recruits and not have them go to rival schools and become stars while your team is going downhill. Fulmer missed on pretty much all the top in-state talent while trying to raid Georgia.
Posted by BlumpkinHog
Member since Nov 2010
259 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 11:58 am to
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Best athletes in TN play basketball.


This
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:00 pm to
Vandy is doing pretty well this year
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:00 pm to
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Are you trying to say that Nashville is a bunch of yankees and Tennessee is really just South Kentucky?


nashville residents are very southern. their definition of southern is modifyed some tho. middle tennessee has always been different than the south. seriously, hs football, in nashville is not viewed the same as elsewhere. the locals participate in many other sports and the private schools have been around for a long time and have nothing to do with the racial integration backlash. ice hockey teams, equestrian teams, lacrosse teams, wrestling teams, soccer teams, etc are alive and well at the high school level. nashiville is southern but very mid western as well. it's as close to chicago as it is to new orleans and much closer to st louis, cincinatti and indianapolis.
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
805 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:02 pm to
Vandy has recruited Alabama well in the past few years. Some of their top talent are from Bama. Off the top of my head Matthews and Stacy are both from there.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:03 pm to
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Best athletes in TN play basketball.




This

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Tennessee is a huge state in a horizontal sense, so kids may feel more attracted to other SEC schools


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UT always recruited nationally due to the TV thing in the past.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96028 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:04 pm to
african americans in TN play basketball. i thought everyone knew this.
Posted by Sgt Barnes
Murfreesboro
Member since Jul 2011
805 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:04 pm to
On top of what Granddad said, there are a lot of transplants in Middle Tennessee. There are a lot from Ohio and Michigan due to there being a couple of car factories here.
Posted by McRebel42
North Mississippi Hollywood
Member since Oct 2012
11606 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:08 pm to
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Memphis is ... basically a city in Ark. or Miss. to most Tennesseans.


Memphis = North Mississippi Hollywood
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/23/12 at 12:11 pm to
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Memphis = North Mississippi Hollywood


and they generally hate nashville and not too damn fond of east tn either. hell, knoxville is a full day's drive away. tennessee really is three different states.
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