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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by jasonbd3
mandeville
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:10 pm to
nc14- grow up
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:11 pm to
Answer the question!
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Well part of being a great coach at the college level is recruiting 5 star talent.



Alabama and LSU always has 5-star talent

Mike Shula won 10 games at Bama- it aint that hard
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:12 pm to
Yes, recruiting not part of coaching. Where can I hire this 2-3 star wunderkind from?
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:15 pm to
Saban
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:18 pm to
Problem?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:20 pm to
One of the worst threads on here in a while.

1. it is a cliffhanger.

2. the answer is obvious.

3. you ask this during the middle of a gameday.

Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:28 pm to
Not sure if serious. NS might be the best coach in football period. He might retire as the greatest coach of all time.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 12:31 pm to
This. College football is all about recruiting, and Les and Nick are masters at it.
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:04 pm to
Mike Shula
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:10 pm to
Obvious answer is obvious and indisputable.... chiz ...does more with less
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

its not Saban or Miles- anybody can coach a bunch of 5-star talents to victory. Need to look at the guys coaching the 2 and 3-star guys and getting results.

Saban was down in talent when he got to Bama- and what did he do? Lost to Crooms and ULM on his way to 6-6

I see what you are saying but what are the primary functions of a CFB HC? To me it is:
01. Good staff hires
02. Recruiting
03. Keeping the whole program on the same page
04. Dealing with alumni/boosters/local media.

Coach Saban does 1-3 very well, not sure about #4. At LSU he seemed continually ticked. But to your point, if an HC is overachieving with 2&3 stars, congrats but he has failed at a primary function of recruiting.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:26 pm to
The answer is Chizik, just look at what he is doing to ULM today.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

I think Les and Saban are about the same

I'm a bottom line guy and Coach Saban has accomplished more (3 NC and 3 CC to 1 NC and 2 CC) but let's revisit this question when the chapter is closed.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:29 pm to
Saban is number one,either spurrier or miles for second.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:31 pm to
Les Miles is winning with Saban's players.
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:33 pm to
Sure ain't Chizik.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:34 pm to
Spurrier dominated conference much of the 90's and took SCar to a level they have never been before.

(TigerNation, I'm the biggest CLM homer around, just the way I see it)

But like I said earlier, a good question to revisit when it's all said and done. My money is still on Coach Miles. Hopefully have to about 2020 to find out.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:35 pm to
Give Spurrier the talent at LSU or Bama, and I'd take him easily over Miles AND Saban.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/15/12 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Saban was down in talent when he got to Bama-


proves you don't know shite. bama had tons of talent when saban arrived. they were just undisciplined and he weeded out the one's that didn't want to excel.
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