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re: Lsu fans, a question about the punt returns in the NC game...

Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:24 am to
Maybe if Wing had not have been worried about running down and getting in Maze's face and talking shite, his punts would have been better, and maybe his team wouldn't have gotten throttled.
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:24 am to
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Not to mention the 2 blocks in the back


Oh My GOD!!!!!
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:24 am to
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and maybe his team wouldn't have gotten throttled.
nah, we would have still gotten whipped
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:25 am to
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Oh My GOD!!!!!
I know. That was some bullshite
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:31 am to
just part of a horrible night. Wing's punting had been nothing but awesome.But he was due all year for one run back or a long return. Maze made a fine run and good moves along with good blocking. Just part of a bad game.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:35 am to
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shite!


The fact that Wing is going to be here another 3 years isn't even the scariest thing about the Wing family. He has a little brother that is a freshman in high school right now in BR that can already do the same things Brad is doing right now. As soon as one Wing graduates another one will be enrolling.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:47 am to
Good point Hunter...

You know I didn't even realize that until your post.
You know I really just think Wing outkicked his coverage on the Maze return, but I think the main thing is that is was a low kick compared to previous ones.
Credit Maze for lining up so deep in the first place, and the Bama blockers for helping him get past the first wave, which has not happened all season.
Sorry for being rude to you yesterday, BTW...
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:48 am to
no worries. It's the internet.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 10:58 am to
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ray terese


Posted by itsover9000
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:30 am to
I'm pretty sure on the big punt return there were 2 blocks in the back not called.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:41 am to
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He has a little brother that is a freshman in high school right now in BR that can already do the same things Brad is doing right now. As soon as one Wing graduates another one will be enrolling.


Hmmmm. Does the kid brother have a girl friend?
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:46 am to
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I'm pretty sure on the big punt return there were 2 blocks in the back not called.


That was a very loosely called game. I saw a lot more mis-calls. I'll even say that most of them hurt LSU. The definitely let the players go at it.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:46 am to
Maze had more punt return yards by the time he got past the first tackler or wave than LSU had given up all year
Posted by 4nmylifetime
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:48 am to
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Maybe if Wing had not have been worried about running down and getting in Maze's face and talking shite, his punts would have been better,


I find Wing's arrogance comical. Dude, I realize you're a punter and have never been hit so you dont really understand payback but dont talk shite and just kick the ball.

The key to the second (long) punt return was the first one. Wing boomed it 59 yards and sent Maze back 10 yards to field it. This set Maze up deeper on the next punt and when Wing outkicked the coverage Maze was under and ready. Kickers/Punters are strange birds. The mental aspect is such a large factor of what they do that it's very easy for them to fall off of the mental edge. Wing had a bad shank in the Nov 5th game also.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 11:50 am to
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Credit Maze for lining up so deep in the first place


The first punt went over his head about 15 yards. I think he got it by that point. BW is an amazing talent. Maze did have that kind of explosive punt run back talent that Arenas had. I think he got it from him. HB7 seems to have it also. It takes a special kind of talent to break through the gunners then penetrate through the next level. If you can then a TD becomes very possible.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 12:30 pm to
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Just further proof that every facet of that game on January 9th for LSU was a complete cluster-frick. The team was simply not prepared.

Team loss.
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26270 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 1:12 pm to
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Lsu had only given up a total of 6 yards the entire season. Against Bama, in the NC game, they gave up 67 yds on 3 returns

We wanted to continue the theme of doing things in the NC game we didn't do in the regular season.

Pre-snap penalties, missed tackles, and fumbling the snap just weren't gonna cut it
Posted by Frankie Knuckles
Member since Jul 2010
2807 posts
Posted on 1/18/12 at 1:14 pm to
frick myself
This post was edited on 1/18/12 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/18/12 at 1:14 pm to
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Lsu fans, a question about the punt returns in the NC game...
In the 13 games leading up to the NC game, Lsu had only given up a total of 6 yards the entire season. Against Bama, in the NC game, they gave up 67 yds on 3 returns, one of which could maybe have been a td if Maze hadn't pulled up hurt.

First, Lsu's coverage was nothing short of amazing for the year, don't know if we'll ever see anything like that again. Before the NC, they gave up .3 yards per return, and afterwards, still only averaged 1.4 per return.

I haven't studied the film or anything, but was the coverages being used ran differently or were there some busted coverages during those 3 returns, good blocking by Bama or a combo of those things?


Really as much as anything else, I think that you can just expect some season trends to change after a long break between games.

If they played the week after the SEC championship I'm not sure they give up those long returns.

Looked to me that the gunners over ran the play
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